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    Re: Guess the date Bell is fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    Ah yes, the nepotism of uhhhh, a guy who’s an advisor to the GM. Buddy Bell sure is calling the shots for the Reds, for sure man.
    …..and Dick Williams got his job how? With what kind of experience and qualifications?

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    Re: Guess the date Bell is fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Old NDN View Post
    …..and Dick Williams got his job how? With what kind of experience and qualifications?
    He was in baseball operations for the Reds since 2006 and was being groomed for the big job by Jocketty.

    It was unquestionably nepotism that brought Williams to power, it's certainly a fair charge. Trying to extend that to David Bell though, whose last two jobs were as the bench coach for the St. Louis Cardinals and ran the Giants development system and who interviewed for managerial openings with other teams this last offseason, is ridiculous. But when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail.
    “I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”

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    Re: Guess the date Bell is fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    He was in baseball operations for the Reds since 2006 and was being groomed for the big job by Jocketty.

    It was unquestionably nepotism that brought Williams to power, it's certainly a fair charge. Trying to extend that to David Bell though, whose last two jobs were as the bench coach for the St. Louis Cardinals and ran the Giants development system and who interviewed for managerial openings with other teams this last offseason, is ridiculous. But when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail.
    I blame a lot of that on ownership don't say stupid things at his introductory press conference like his grandfather was my favorite player or my favorite quote you can never go wrong with a bell. I don't blame any of that stuff on David Bell I blame it on the ignorant owner but putting David Bell in that situation by saying that stuff
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    Re: Guess the date Bell is fired

    I like David Bell, I like him even more when I see people melt down over him.

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    Re: Guess the date Bell is fired

    David Bell is the turkey sandwich of baseball managers. Not particularly good, not particularly bad. Just there and does the job.
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    The ejections are an issue, and he had that reputation in the minors. Strategy wise I didn't see anything too bad, other than his refusal to consider moving Iggy out of the closer role. Like most managers, let's see if the front office can get him some better players before making too much of a sweeping judgement.
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Re: Guess the date Bell is fired

    Quote Originally Posted by CySeymour View Post
    The ejections are an issue, and he had that reputation in the minors. Strategy wise I didn't see anything too bad, other than his refusal to consider moving Iggy out of the closer role. Like most managers, let's see if the front office can get him some better players before making too much of a sweeping judgement.
    I don't see how his ejections are an issue. I don't remember many Atlanta fans complaining about Bobby Cox being ejected so much.
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    Re: Guess the date Bell is fired

    Perhaps those who support Bell do so because they are worried he may try and fight them on the schoolyard.

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    Re: Guess the date Bell is fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix2 View Post
    Perhaps those who support Bell do so because they are worried he may try and fight them on the schoolyard.
    It really bothers you this much that he tried to stick up for his players against Hurdle's antics?
    “I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”

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    Re: Guess the date Bell is fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    I don't see how his ejections are an issue. I don't remember many Atlanta fans complaining about Bobby Cox being ejected so much.
    I do agree with this, but it could also be a sign of losing focus. Either way, he needs better players more than anything, that is the real issue.
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Re: Guess the date Bell is fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix2 View Post
    Perhaps those who support Bell do so because they are worried he may try and fight them on the schoolyard.
    Nah, it's because we like how he makes people mad about stuff they can't control

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    Re: Guess the date Bell is fired

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Nah, it's because we like how he makes people mad about stuff they can't control
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    Re: Guess the date Bell is fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    It really bothers you this much that he tried to stick up for his players against Hurdle's antics?
    I suppose there are no other ways to mitigate Hurdle's antics than to run across the field and challenge him to a fight. This is what those in responsible leadership positions tend to do. And even if there were other means, I'm sure nothing strikes fear into the heart of those dastardly Pirates more than a charging, irate middle-aged man like David Bell.

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    Re: Guess the date Bell is fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix2 View Post
    I suppose there are no other ways to mitigate Hurdle's antics than to run across the field and challenge him to a fight. This is what those in responsible leadership positions tend to do. And even if there were other means, I'm sure nothing strikes fear into the heart of those dastardly Pirates more than a charging, irate middle-aged man like David Bell.
    Personality never hurt another teams feelings more than Bell's actions on that day.

    You'd think that a city that has built a foundation on smashmouth, working-mans football would appreciate a street fight when it was brought to their doorstep

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    Re: Guess the date Bell is fired

    Bell was a much better manager than Price. And I think he's open to improving on things he can improve on. I don't see any reason at this time to fire him.
    The world is a messy place. People are inconsistent and complicated. Maybe we should see how different things could be if we gave grace and forgiveness to our fellow human beings when they fail to be perfect in our eyes. -- me

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