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    Reds are looking for a data scientist



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    Re: Reds are looking for a data scientist

    I read something similar a while ago.

    Yes they want a Data Scientist. But only one that will work on the cheap, for the privilege of working for the Reds.

    I'm sure that'll work out ok.
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    Re: Reds are looking for a data scientist

    How about Magnus Pyke?

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    Re: Reds are looking for a data scientist

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sheed View Post
    I read something similar a while ago.

    Yes they want a Data Scientist. But only one that will work on the cheap, for the privilege of working for the Reds.

    I'm sure that'll work out ok.
    Where did you get that from?
    Crazy Reds Fan

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    Re: Reds are looking for a data scientist

    I'm not a system player. I am a system.

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    Re: Reds are looking for a data scientist

    The fact that everyone wants to work in the toy department has been a major cost saver for MLB teams for a long time. Broadcasters, front office, sales, everyone makes less than they should because they’re huge fans who have long dreamed of working for the team. But data stuff and computer stuff is very lucrative and in demand and, let’s face it, there’s probably a smaller cross-section between eggheads and big baseball fans than there would be for most jobs. Smart orgs likely aren’t trying to do this on the cheap. What are the Reds? Guess we’ll find out.

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    Re: Reds are looking for a data scientist

    Quote Originally Posted by bradmanuel View Post
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    I rate this statement as true.

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    Re: Reds are looking for a data scientist

    Next step, actually listen to whomever they hire.
    Go Gators!

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    Re: Reds are looking for a data scientist

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolando View Post
    Where did you get that from?
    Pretty sure right here at RZ last time it came up, from someone who was offered the job.
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    Re: Reds are looking for a data scientist

    Baseball Science 101:

    Score more than the other team.
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    Re: Reds are looking for a data scientist

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sheed View Post
    Pretty sure right here at RZ last time it came up, from someone who was offered the job.
    Wasn’t it Doug?

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    Re: Reds are looking for a data scientist

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sheed View Post
    I read something similar a while ago.

    Yes they want a Data Scientist. But only one that will work on the cheap, for the privilege of working for the Reds.

    I'm sure that'll work out ok.
    That’s what every professional sports team does with most of their analytics guys.

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    Re: Reds are looking for a data scientist

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    That’s what every professional sports team does with most of their analytics guys.
    I believe it. If I had an MLB franchise that printed money, I'd probably overpay for the best Data Scientists. Even 500k/ yr is chump change by MLB standards. But I get it.
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    Re: Reds are looking for a data scientist

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    That’s what every professional sports team does with most of their analytics guys.
    Must like receiving wedgies and be able to hold your breath for a full swirly.
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    Re: Reds are looking for a data scientist

    Most of these jobs are offering something in the neighborhood of $35-40k to work 80 weeks, including regular (rather than "periodic" nights, weekends, and holidays. It's like getting into finance or law without the 6 figure salary with 7 figure upside. They are designed for 25 year-old Ivy league grads disenchanted with their 2-3 year stint at Merrill Lynch or McKinsey, with no family or social commitments, and desperate to break into baseball. Luckily for the Reds, there are plenty of those to go around. I can't speak for the actual talent, but just go to the Sloan Sports Analytics Conference and you'll drown in them.

    All that aside, the most interesting aspect of that ad to me was the line about familiarity with Bayesian statistics. That tells me it's written by an actual analytics manager/director and not just a generic ops guy. Regular "frequentist" statistics is a bit more rigid in terms of the need to make certain assumptions in advance. Bayesian is better for building models on top of theory and being flexible to changes in your assumptions. Rather than just building out a roster of guys who do analytics stuff, this makes me think they have some more specific plans around capabilities.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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