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    Freak Show Reds (By two of our own)

    From BP today. Nice job, M2 and WOY.

    http://premium.baseballprospectus.co...articleid=1938
    Last edited by Chip R; 05-28-2003 at 02:49 PM.
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    Statistical legwork for this article was performed by Brian Erts.
    What?! WOY was robbed!

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    I guess that's how the numbers pan out when your losses have often been blowouts and your wins are nailbiters. Interesting observations M2.

    The phenomenon I would like explained is why the 1-2 hitting teams in the NL (Atl & StL) are struggling against our starting pitching yet the rest of the league pounds them?

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    Nice article guys.
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    The question I have is, by how many runs were the Reds outscored while they went 5-13?

    And by how many runs have they been outscored since?

    Then compute the "pace" based on how they have played since going 5-13....then write stupid....and I mean STUPID articles like this.

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    Originally posted by red-in-la
    then write stupid....and I mean STUPID articles like this.
    "Is there a problem, red-in-la?"



    Great work, guys.

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    from an extreme minor league gig (teaching OPS to Richard Hand and Drew Nelson) to the big leagues (a BP article) in a mere five seasons? Nice progression-- congrats

    does that coffee taste good?

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    Not even a subtle plug of the Zone?
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    Chip is right

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    Originally posted by Chip R
    Not even a subtle plug of the Zone?
    Should've used the word "serpentine."
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    Originally posted by Chip R
    Not even a subtle plug of the Zone?
    Think about all the trolls you won't have to deal with!

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    You are right GIK, I think stupid was uncalled for...and I apologize.

    I was thinking it but I shouldn't have typed it.

    I just find it "interesting" when STAT type people point at stats, which according to them MOST of the time are suppose to provide the answers, and use those stats to call the Reds a WORST TEAM.

    The Reds aren't playing that poorly right now, and their 3.5 games back, that make them a "contender" only make them a contender because they play in the same division with 3 other WORST contending teams.

    In fact, the Cubs are the only division leader not playing .600 or better ball.....so, why didn't these guys choose to write an article about how the Cubs are the WORST divsion leader in baseball right now?

    The Cards, a team that the WORST contender has absolutely tatooed so far this year, is ONLY 2 games over .500 and they are a BAD contender.

    Did it matter to these authors that the Reds have play better than even with the BEST team in baseball?

    Just gets me OK....so, I am sorry for saying stupid......guess I should have stuck will TOTALLY ILLOGICAL!

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    Originally posted by traderumor
    The phenomenon I would like explained is why the 1-2 hitting teams in the NL (Atl & StL) are struggling against our starting pitching yet the rest of the league pounds them?
    We've shut down the Braves offense in the current series, but in the series last week at GAB, the Braves scored 20 runs in 3 games, including 8 in Game One and 9 in Game Three.

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    Great job guys.

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    The Reds are at a -2 run differential since going 5-13. So they've played above expectations during this most recent stretch.

    Though why you'd ignore the larger pool of data (unless you were performing some sort of self-delusion) is beyond me.

    BTW r-i-l, a small amount of enterprise and you could look these things up yourself.
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    So much stats, so much nonsense.

    Winning is the only thing that counts. Its not how you win, nor is it by how much you win, its that you win. The Reds are playing good ball right now, and they've beat some of the better teams in the NL.

    I'm with LA on this one.

    And, if you're a Reds fan, whats the point in writing this crap about your team? Garbage.


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