Oh, I think he made up for that ill-advised Todd Richie trade. He since acquired Bartolo Colon, Alomar and Carl Everitt.
If Jim Bowden made those deals, we would be proclaiming him as a god about now.
Oh, I think he made up for that ill-advised Todd Richie trade. He since acquired Bartolo Colon, Alomar and Carl Everitt.
If Jim Bowden made those deals, we would be proclaiming him as a god about now.
If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.
Maybe some would, certainly others wouldn't.If Jim Bowden made those deals, we would be proclaiming him as a god about now
Which camp would you be in?
At least the White Sox are trying to win. It is better than seeing anything from this organization. Cellular Field isn't near as nice as a ballpark as Great American but that isn't stopping Jerry Reinsdorf from trying to win the division.
Of course, Lindner is a businessman and not a baseball fan.
If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.
Hey the Mets "were trying to win" and so were the Rockies when they signed "Hampton and Neagle"At least the White Sox are trying to win. It is better than seeing anything from this organization. Cellular Field isn't near as nice as a ballpark as Great American but that isn't stopping Jerry Reinsdorf from trying to win the division.
"Trying to win" is a pretty wide brush to paint the subject with, there are lots of ways to "try and win", fact is recent history suggests that loading up with high priced, talent on the downward slope of their career is a poor way to try and win.
BTW is this the same Reinsdorf who was taken to task in 1997 when he had that firesale?
Yeah... he's a hero....... oh and isn't that AS game in his park this year? Didn't his fans attack two different participants these past 2 seasons?
He better work on fan goodwill, or his pocketbook is going to feel it.
Jiminez has been Luis Castillo-lite this season, so far.
Here's how they stack up
Salary:
DJ: 345K
Castillo: 4.85-M
Plate Apperances:
DJ 308
LC 369
Runs Created
DJ 37.9
LC 53.2
RC/27
DJ 4.81
LC 5.84
Batting Average
DJ .255
LC: 320
OBP
LC 379
DJ 332
SLG
LC 411
DJ 410
OPS
LC 790
DJ 742
Runs
LC 55
DJ 35
Doubles
LC 9
DJ 11
Triples
LC 3
DJ 5
Home Runs
DJ 7
LC 5
RBI
DJ 26
LC 24
Extra Base Hits
DJ 23
LC 17
Walks
DJ 32
LC 31
Strike Outs
DJ 46
LC 26
Castillo's been significantly better, BUT he makes 4.5 Mil more a year.
I like the deal
The Reds will score an additional run about every three games with Jimenez in the lineup instead of Juan Castro.
4.84 rc/27 Jimenez
2.55 rc/27 Castro
Those who don't see a big difference in their offensive stats aren't looking at the right stats.
So why don't I love this trade to death?
If hearsay means anything, the guy is lazy and a bad teammate.
"He's the laziest teammate I've ever played with—that's 10 years," Ryan Klesko told the San Diego Union-Tribune. "The kid has no desire. What can you do? He didn't want to work."
So why bring in this guy unless he's going to start? It's one thing to have a clubhouse cancer if he's producing. But I don't see the point of bringing this guy in as a backup.
Anyone from Chicago have any qualitative analysis on why his stats went so far south in June?
Stick to your guns.
The lineup that should be on the field tomorrow evening:
1. Jiminez 2B
2. Larkin SS
3. Guillen RF
4. Kearns CF (only because he isn't on the DL)
5. Boone 3B
6. Dunn LF
7. Casey 1B
8. Stinnett C
Another good point is by trading for Jimenez to help our MI situation, Jimbo can concentrate on getting some help at our starting pitching stiuation!!! Jimenez can play 3 infield positions, he might make a good leadoff hitter and he doesn't make a lot of $$. I wish he would be a better base stealer.
Larkin contract is over at the end of the season. Will he be back next season at a much smaller contract? Maybe we can trade Castro to a playoff team who needs help to get rid of his contract.
Jimbo now is the time for a good starting pitcher!!
Originally posted by cincinnati chili
So why don't I love this trade to death?
If hearsay means anything, the guy is lazy and a bad teammate.
Thank goodness the Reds have Casey to give him a hug! That's probably all that's been missing!
Another guy with baggage......great.
If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.
When they call FeLo back up, we can have the All-Samsonite middle infield.Originally posted by Krusty
Another guy with baggage......great.
Again, I don't mind the baggage if he's starting and helping the team win. I just don't see the point of a lazy, ingrate backup. Start him or trade him (now I sound like Jose Guillen).
Stick to your guns.
Raisor, I know you're just being funny (sort of). But do you really put no creedence at all in what Chili said?Originally posted by Raisor
Thank goodness the Reds have Casey to give him a hug! That's probably all that's been missing!
I have no clue if Jimenez is a badguy or not. Klesko, when he was in Atlanta was a so called problem too, so who knows?Originally posted by RFS62
Raisor, I know you're just being funny (sort of). But do you really put no creedence at all in what Chili said?
As long as a guy isn't doing illegal stuff, it doesn't bother me too much either way..
PSR
For what it's worth, 62, unless Scott Dunn can be a major league stud reliever (which looks doubtful), I think that Jimenez is worth the risk. The Reds aren't going anywhere unless they improve their run deficit. It's not like they're a first-place team and they're inviting a fly into the ointment. Like the White Sox dealing with the devil (e.g. Carl Everett), the Reds have nothing to lose except money. This trade costs us very little money, so I say why not.Originally posted by Raisor
I have no clue if Jimenez is a badguy or not. Klesko, when he was in Atlanta was a so called problem too, so who knows?
As long as a guy isn't doing illegal stuff, it doesn't bother me too much either way..
PSR
But I'm not going to jump for joy, given the fact that two organizations in the past 12 months have unloaded this guy with bad things to say about him.
Stick to your guns.
Wow this is a first, praise for Jerry Reinsdorf as a man who wants to win out of the goodness of his heart!Originally posted by Krusty
At least the White Sox are trying to win. It is better than seeing anything from this organization. Cellular Field isn't near as nice as a ballpark as Great American but that isn't stopping Jerry Reinsdorf from trying to win the division.
Of course, Lindner is a businessman and not a baseball fan.
BTW, nothing wrong with this deal. Won't set the world on firem but this organization needs some depth at MI and giving up Scott Dunn isn't going to matter much. Getting a cheap MI wtih an eye for walks and a little pop isn't a bad thing. Scott Dunn won't help the big club in 2003 (and likely beyond) and Jimenez is about 3X better than Juan Castro -- again showing the folly of the Dictator's multi-year LTC :thumbdn:
Chili -- Love the "All-Samsonite" line
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