Who just happens to gets on base at a .380 clipor he'll be exposed as just a marginal HR hitter who strikes out way too much.
Who just happens to gets on base at a .380 clipor he'll be exposed as just a marginal HR hitter who strikes out way too much.
We should all hope for the 1998-2000 Griffey:
.281 | 586 AB | 48 HR | 133 RBI | 342 TB
and not the 2001-2003 Griffey:
.271 | 242 AB | 14 HR | 38 RBI | 124 TB
WoW!!! Those numbers for 3 years are amazing. I never realized that they were that bad. Man he really has been in bad shape the last 3 years. I knew it but never saw the full 3 years on paper. Didn't he hit like 5 home runs right before he blew up this year? Maybe the last week or 2? That is amazing that throwing out that little blip he would have had less than 10 home runs over a bunch of games. I really feel sorry for this guy. I hope he turns into Mark McGwire after his 2 or 3 seasons of nothing.Originally posted by GIK
We should all hope for the 1998-2000 Griffey:
.281 | 586 AB | 48 HR | 133 RBI | 342 TB
and not the 2001-2003 Griffey:
.271 | 242 AB | 14 HR | 38 RBI | 124 TB
I'm betting on 38 home runs and 108 RBIs. .279 batting average but most importantly 140 games played.
Tim McCarver: Baseball Quotes
I remember one time going out to the mound to talk with Bob Gibson. He told me to get back behind the batter, that the only thing I knew about pitching was that it was hard to hit.
IMO "guessing" counting stats like RBI's is a complete shot in the dark, especially considering that the batting order is somewhat unknown, nor are we aware of Mileys preference for a #2 hitter (ball mover/speed or OB guy)
A lineup that went Jimenez-Dunn-Griffey will trump a Jimenez-Larkin/SS- Griffey, furthermore a Jimenez-Dunn-Kearns-Griffey would provide more opps.
TC, if the trio were to compile your predictions they would have accounted for 49% of the RBI's last year, as it is in post strike Reds land the Reds have averaged 712 rbi's a season, with highs of 820 in 1999 and low of 612 in 1997.
Paul, those numbers are averaged for each set of those 3 years. The total numbers are:Originally posted by paulrichjr
WoW!!! Those numbers for 3 years are amazing. I never realized that they were that bad. Man he really has been in bad shape the last 3 years. I knew it but never saw the full 3 years on paper. Didn't he hit like 5 home runs right before he blew up this year? Maybe the last week or 2? That is amazing that throwing out that little blip he would have had less than 10 home runs over a bunch of games. I really feel sorry for this guy. I hope he turns into Mark McGwire after his 2 or 3 seasons of nothing.
I'm betting on 38 home runs and 108 RBIs. .279 batting average but most importantly 140 games played.
Code:'98-'00: .281 | 1759 AB | 144 HR | 398 RBI | 1025 TB '01-'03: .271 | 727 AB | 43 HR | 114 RBI | 372 TB
OBP is high for Jr. Beyond that, I think he does that.Originally posted by Team Clark
154 Games. 42 HR's 133 RBI. Sit out 5 games with a tight Hammy in August. Junior will also hit .295 and have an OBP of .444. This is what the crystal ball says.
Adam Dunn .248 47HR's and 116 RBI. 158 K's and 98 BB's.
Kearns .311 28HR and 79 RBI. 131 Games played. Kearns goes down in August for a month.
Griff and Kearns go to ALL Star Game.
Dunn hits 35-40 HR with the rest of those numbers in the ballpark.
Kearns hits 90 RBIs but everything else is ballpark too.
Nice.
Others.
Jiminez bats .310 with a .380 OBP and scores 120 runs out of the leadoff spot
Larkin bats .270 in about 400 ABs with 12-15 HR and 50 RBIs.
Casey bats .290 with 20 HR and 75 RBI
LaRue bats .240 with 20 HR in 200 AB
Larson bats .250 with a .320 OBP and 20 HR in 500 AB
Pena is your primary OF backup and gets 250 AB, due to a reasonably healthy year for everyone. Bats .230 with 10 HR, 30 BB and 60 Ks
Freel is your primary IF backup. He gets 400 AB, much at SS when Jiminez plays there and Freel takes over 2B. He bats .280 with little power or walks but adds some speed and scrapiron tendancies to the club.
I wouldn't dare project the pitching.
Fun facts.Jiminez bats .310 with a .380 OBP and scores 120 runs out of the leadoff spot
Reds since 1982 (post BRM)
BRM EraCode:CINCINNATI REDS SEASON 1982-2003 OBA displayed only--not a sorting criteria OBA vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria RUNS YEAR R OBA OBA 1 Eric Davis 1987 120 .399 .060 2 Barry Larkin 1996 117 .410 .071 3 Barry Larkin 1999 108 .390 .039 4 Greg Vaughn 1999 104 .347 -.004 5 Sean Casey 1999 103 .399 .048 6 Ken Griffey Jr. 2000 100 .387 .036 7 Barry Larkin 1995 98 .394 .053 T8 Chris Sabo 1990 95 .343 .013 T8 Kal Daniels 1988 95 .397 .077 T10 Mike Cameron 1999 93 .357 .005 T10 Barry Larkin 1998 93 .397 .058
Code:CINCINNATI REDS SEASON 1970-1981 OBA displayed only--not a sorting criteria OBA vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria RUNS YEAR R OBA OBA 1 Pete Rose 1976 130 .404 .075 2 George Foster 1977 124 .382 .044 3 Joe Morgan 1972 122 .417 .091 4 Pete Rose 1970 120 .385 .045 5 Ken Griffey Sr. 1977 117 .389 .051 6 Joe Morgan 1973 116 .406 .074 7 Pete Rose 1973 115 .401 .069 T8 Joe Morgan 1976 113 .444 .115 T8 Joe Morgan 1977 113 .417 .080 T10 Bobby Tolan 1970 112 .384 .045 T10 Pete Rose 1975 112 .406 .070
I predict for 2004:
550 AB | .280 AVG | 41 HR | 111 RBI | 80 BB | 111 SO
LaRue bats .240 with 20 HR in 200 AB
.270/.365/.530
20-25 Home runs
360 at bats
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Griffey: .285, 43 HR, 140 RBI
Kearns: .309, 26 HR, 132 RBI
Dunn: .243, 31 HR, 79 RBI
LaRue: .250, 22 HR, 82 RBI
Larson: .265, 28 HR, 90 RBI
Jimenez: .299, 17 HR, 66 RBI
Casey: .314, 20 HR, 79 RBI
What?
That is a pretty good estimate and not far fetched, well maybe Larue is a bit of stretch, but the rest can easily do that. Looks like an offensive dynamo to me.Originally posted by LvJ
Griffey: .285, 43 HR, 140 RBI
Kearns: .309, 26 HR, 132 RBI
Dunn: .243, 31 HR, 79 RBI
LaRue: .250, 22 HR, 82 RBI
Larson: .265, 28 HR, 90 RBI
Jimenez: .299, 17 HR, 66 RBI
Casey: .314, 20 HR, 79 RBI
What?
Last year the Reds top 7 RBI guys accounted for 60% of the teams RBI's, if the top 7 Reds RBI guys were as LVJ predicts and the percentage stayed the same the Reds would have 1113 rbi's, you'd have to think there be about 30-60 unearned runs add that and you have say...1150 so then that would be 190 runs better last years Red Sox or the best Rockies year.
The HR numbers add up to 187, the Reds have topped 200 HR's 3 times, 1956, 1999 and 2000. Think about 30 other HR's at the least from the bench and we'd have 217..... 4behind the 1956 team.
About 7 runs and 1.33 HR a game
I'd take that.
Last edited by westofyou; 01-30-2004 at 07:53 PM.
Man I thought I was losing it... Which I guess I was. I kept thinking man this guy has really stunk. Well Ok thanks. I didn't look at the 98-00 numbers but instead just kept staring at those 01-03 numbers....Originally posted by GIK
Paul, those numbers are averaged for each set of those 3 years. The total numbers are:
Code:'98-'00: .281 | 1759 AB | 144 HR | 398 RBI | 1025 TB '01-'03: .271 | 727 AB | 43 HR | 114 RBI | 372 TB
Tim McCarver: Baseball Quotes
I remember one time going out to the mound to talk with Bob Gibson. He told me to get back behind the batter, that the only thing I knew about pitching was that it was hard to hit.
Don't forget... the pitching in the NL central is a whole lot better this year.
"Enjoy this Reds fans, you are watching a legend grow up before your very eyes" ... DoogMinAmo on Adam Dunn
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