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    Re: Reds Acquire Gabe White

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor
    I've said it before, I'll say it again: Please, no more ex-Reds.
    What does it matter that he's an ex-Red, so long as he's a quality major league pitcher? Seriously, I've never understood your phobia of ex-Reds.
    My dad got to enjoy 3 Reds World Championships by the time he was my age. So far, I've only gotten to enjoy one. Step it up Redlegs!

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    Re: Reds Acquire Gabe White

    Quote Originally Posted by savafan
    What does it matter that he's an ex-Red, so long as he's a quality major league pitcher? Seriously, I've never understood your phobia of ex-Reds.

    Because I'm tired of the same old stuff. New blood, new ideas.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: Reds Acquire Gabe White

    I saw this article at BA. I don't think it has been posted yet, enjoy.
    IMO if Gullett can do his magic again with White. We'll have a good LHP reliever we can trade for young prospects at the trading deadline.


    White returns to Reds
    By Jim Callis
    June 18, 2004

    Last July 31, the Yankees sent minor league lefthander Charlie Manning to the Reds in a deal for Aaron Boone, then acquired Gabe White from Cincinnati for cash considerations later in the afternoon. On Friday, both southpaws went back to their previous destinations as New York shipped White to the Reds for Manning.

    The Yankees included $700,000 in the trade to help offset the remainder of White's $2.125 million salary for 2004. He also has an option for $1.925 million for 2005. New York will pay the $200,000 buyout if the Reds decline the option, or send them a player to be named later if they pick it up.

    White, 32, works with a good changeup and an average-at-best fastball. American League hitters didn't have much problem solving that combination, as White posted a 6.82 ERA in parts of two seasons as a Yankee. He has struggled mightily in 2004, going 0-1, 8.27 in 24 games and falling into disuse in the bullpen. In 21 innings, he had an 8-7 strikeout-walk ratio, while opponents batted .355 with two homers against him. He owns a 33-24, 4.42 record and 16 saves in 426 career appearances. New York will use White's 25-man roster spot to promote lefty Brad Halsey, who will make his major league debut with a start against the Dodgers on Saturday.

    Manning, 25, signed as a 2001 ninth-round pick from the University of Tampa. Manning has a high-80s fastball that has topped out at 93 but also dropped to the low-80s at times in 2003. He supplements it with a cutter, slider and changeup. In 13 starts at Double-A Chattanooga, he went 4-4, 5.12. He had a 71-21 K-BB ratio, five homers allowed and a .292 opponent average in 70 innings. The Yankees assigned him to Double-A Trenton.


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    Re: Reds Acquire Gabe White

    Yes we need to bring up Sanchez up from Lousiville. Next we'll sign LHP Curtis Leskanic to a minor league contract to see if he's got anything left.
    Heck Saturday the Braves designated C.J. Nitkowski for assignment we could sign him to a minor league contract too!!! He's an ex-red and a LHP, we'll corner the market on LHP relievers and the top teams we'll have to come to the Reds for a LHP reliever at the trading deadline!!
    Please, Please Mr. O'Brien don't sign LHP Jimmy Anderson who was disignated for assignment by the Cubs on Saturday too. We can't afford what he eats, he's a true 5-tool player. He has a knife, fork, spoon and two plates!!


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    Re: Reds Acquire Gabe White

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor
    Because I'm tired of the same old stuff. New blood, new ideas.
    This new blood bullpen has been getting a lot accomplished as of late though, hasn't it?

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    Re: Reds Acquire Gabe White

    Yes it's early but in two appearances White hasn't given up any runs. If Graves is traded for something useful maybe Riedling and White could become dual closers for the Reds.

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    Re: Reds Acquire Gabe White

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw
    This new blood bullpen has been getting a lot accomplished as of late though, hasn't it?
    Not a lot of new blood out there, just old blood that's been pitching better
    Go Gators!

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    Re: Reds Acquire Gabe White

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw
    This new blood bullpen has been getting a lot accomplished as of late though, hasn't it?
    Matt this time I'm going to have to agree with you ,If the Reds had the old blood from last year I think they would be if first place. Bullpen that is,
    HUBBA A man who knows everything,just can't remember it all at one time.

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    Re: Reds Acquire Gabe White

    Quote Originally Posted by LvJ
    Erm, why? He's been awful this season.
    Buy low.

    Great pickup.

    Great Job Dan O'Brien.

    Cost the REDS nothing.

    Might get a left-hander that can pitch in the Major Leauges out of this.

    Excellent pickup. Got White when he was struggling. Nowhere to go but up.

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    Re: Reds Acquire Gabe White

    Quote Originally Posted by Colorado Red
    Yes we need to bring up Sanchez up from Lousiville. Next we'll sign LHP Curtis Leskanic to a minor league contract to see if he's got anything left.
    Heck Saturday the Braves designated C.J. Nitkowski for assignment we could sign him to a minor league contract too!!! He's an ex-red and a LHP, we'll corner the market on LHP relievers and the top teams we'll have to come to the Reds for a LHP reliever at the trading deadline!!
    Please, Please Mr. O'Brien don't sign LHP Jimmy Anderson who was disignated for assignment by the Cubs on Saturday too. We can't afford what he eats, he's a true 5-tool player. He has a knife, fork, spoon and two plates!!


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    You're being facetious, but it would be the right course to take. Pick up guys like Leskanic when they're cheap. For every two or three you pick up, one will be good. We're not giving up top prospects for these guys, anyway.

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    Re: Reds Acquire Gabe White

    Quote Originally Posted by Cicero
    White always seemed to flourish in Gullet so why not? It isn't a bad deal by any stretch, and if he regains his form it will be a great deal. I am convinced that some here just need to complain for th esake of complaining.
    Exactly. This is a low-risk aquisition, that has great potential (anytime you can get a lefty to be effective (ERA around 4.00).

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    Re: Reds Acquire Gabe White

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    I choose to believe that's a mistake made by some editorial assistant. The Reds can't be giving up cash in addition to dropping an extra mil on White, surely they're smarter than that.

    Aren't they?
    Good analysis M2. Proves once again to never beleive anything you hear and half of what you see.

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    Re: Reds Acquire Gabe White

    Yes we need to bring up Sanchez up from Lousiville. Next we'll sign LHP Curtis Leskanic to a minor league contract to see if he's got anything left.
    Heck Saturday the Braves designated C.J. Nitkowski for assignment we could sign him to a minor league contract too!!! He's an ex-red and a LHP, we'll corner the market on LHP relievers and the top teams we'll have to come to the Reds for a LHP reliever at the trading deadline!!
    Please, Please Mr. O'Brien don't sign LHP Jimmy Anderson who was disignated for assignment by the Cubs on Saturday too. We can't afford what he eats, he's a true 5-tool player. He has a knife, fork, spoon and two plates!!
    And a lot of people were calling for us to grab Ricky Stone as well when the Astros dumped him, but San Diego got there first. Damn.

    Actually, I'd take CJ Nitkowski over Phil Norton any day, but realistically, Jesus Sanchez can do the same job and is already in the organization.

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    Re: Reds Acquire Gabe White

    Quote Originally Posted by reds1990
    It seems that everyone loves to chime in negatively on a player. You know, it demonstrates our "knowledge" of the game. Seriously, Sullivan was lights out for awhile. Any of you guys remember that? He had an injury, I believe, and seemed really hittable after that. Sullivan is one of those sub-marine pitchers, which I think throws hitters off.
    Excellent change of pace to have in the bullpen.

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    Re: Reds Acquire Gabe White

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    I don't mind the Reds rolling the dice on White, I just don't think they ought to be paying seven figures out of what is surely a small reserve fund to do it.

    If the Yankees are paying most or all of White's contract, then I don't mind the deal. I don't have a lot of hope it will make much difference, but I don't mind it. My sole concern is that the Reds not spend themselves out of something far more attractive down the road.
    Perfect analysis, which is exactly what O'Brien must have been thinking. I'm also certain he consulted with the coaches and scouts before making this trade.


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