What does it matter that he's an ex-Red, so long as he's a quality major league pitcher? Seriously, I've never understood your phobia of ex-Reds.Originally Posted by Raisor
What does it matter that he's an ex-Red, so long as he's a quality major league pitcher? Seriously, I've never understood your phobia of ex-Reds.Originally Posted by Raisor
My dad got to enjoy 3 Reds World Championships by the time he was my age. So far, I've only gotten to enjoy one. Step it up Redlegs!
Originally Posted by savafan
Because I'm tired of the same old stuff. New blood, new ideas.
I saw this article at BA. I don't think it has been posted yet, enjoy.
IMO if Gullett can do his magic again with White. We'll have a good LHP reliever we can trade for young prospects at the trading deadline.
White returns to Reds
By Jim Callis
June 18, 2004
Last July 31, the Yankees sent minor league lefthander Charlie Manning to the Reds in a deal for Aaron Boone, then acquired Gabe White from Cincinnati for cash considerations later in the afternoon. On Friday, both southpaws went back to their previous destinations as New York shipped White to the Reds for Manning.
The Yankees included $700,000 in the trade to help offset the remainder of White's $2.125 million salary for 2004. He also has an option for $1.925 million for 2005. New York will pay the $200,000 buyout if the Reds decline the option, or send them a player to be named later if they pick it up.
White, 32, works with a good changeup and an average-at-best fastball. American League hitters didn't have much problem solving that combination, as White posted a 6.82 ERA in parts of two seasons as a Yankee. He has struggled mightily in 2004, going 0-1, 8.27 in 24 games and falling into disuse in the bullpen. In 21 innings, he had an 8-7 strikeout-walk ratio, while opponents batted .355 with two homers against him. He owns a 33-24, 4.42 record and 16 saves in 426 career appearances. New York will use White's 25-man roster spot to promote lefty Brad Halsey, who will make his major league debut with a start against the Dodgers on Saturday.
Manning, 25, signed as a 2001 ninth-round pick from the University of Tampa. Manning has a high-80s fastball that has topped out at 93 but also dropped to the low-80s at times in 2003. He supplements it with a cutter, slider and changeup. In 13 starts at Double-A Chattanooga, he went 4-4, 5.12. He had a 71-21 K-BB ratio, five homers allowed and a .292 opponent average in 70 innings. The Yankees assigned him to Double-A Trenton.
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Yes we need to bring up Sanchez up from Lousiville. Next we'll sign LHP Curtis Leskanic to a minor league contract to see if he's got anything left.
Heck Saturday the Braves designated C.J. Nitkowski for assignment we could sign him to a minor league contract too!!! He's an ex-red and a LHP, we'll corner the market on LHP relievers and the top teams we'll have to come to the Reds for a LHP reliever at the trading deadline!!
Please, Please Mr. O'Brien don't sign LHP Jimmy Anderson who was disignated for assignment by the Cubs on Saturday too. We can't afford what he eats, he's a true 5-tool player. He has a knife, fork, spoon and two plates!!
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This new blood bullpen has been getting a lot accomplished as of late though, hasn't it?Originally Posted by Raisor
Yes it's early but in two appearances White hasn't given up any runs. If Graves is traded for something useful maybe Riedling and White could become dual closers for the Reds.
Not a lot of new blood out there, just old blood that's been pitching betterOriginally Posted by Matt700wlw
Go Gators!
Matt this time I'm going to have to agree with you ,If the Reds had the old blood from last year I think they would be if first place. Bullpen that is,Originally Posted by Matt700wlw
HUBBA A man who knows everything,just can't remember it all at one time.
Buy low.Originally Posted by LvJ
Great pickup.
Great Job Dan O'Brien.
Cost the REDS nothing.
Might get a left-hander that can pitch in the Major Leauges out of this.
Excellent pickup. Got White when he was struggling. Nowhere to go but up.
You're being facetious, but it would be the right course to take. Pick up guys like Leskanic when they're cheap. For every two or three you pick up, one will be good. We're not giving up top prospects for these guys, anyway.Originally Posted by Colorado Red
Exactly. This is a low-risk aquisition, that has great potential (anytime you can get a lefty to be effective (ERA around 4.00).Originally Posted by Cicero
Good analysis M2. Proves once again to never beleive anything you hear and half of what you see.Originally Posted by M2
And a lot of people were calling for us to grab Ricky Stone as well when the Astros dumped him, but San Diego got there first. Damn.Yes we need to bring up Sanchez up from Lousiville. Next we'll sign LHP Curtis Leskanic to a minor league contract to see if he's got anything left.
Heck Saturday the Braves designated C.J. Nitkowski for assignment we could sign him to a minor league contract too!!! He's an ex-red and a LHP, we'll corner the market on LHP relievers and the top teams we'll have to come to the Reds for a LHP reliever at the trading deadline!!
Please, Please Mr. O'Brien don't sign LHP Jimmy Anderson who was disignated for assignment by the Cubs on Saturday too. We can't afford what he eats, he's a true 5-tool player. He has a knife, fork, spoon and two plates!!
Actually, I'd take CJ Nitkowski over Phil Norton any day, but realistically, Jesus Sanchez can do the same job and is already in the organization.
Excellent change of pace to have in the bullpen.Originally Posted by reds1990
Perfect analysis, which is exactly what O'Brien must have been thinking. I'm also certain he consulted with the coaches and scouts before making this trade.Originally Posted by M2
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