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    I guess I sold Andy short earlier, he is actually listed at 170 pounds. He did lead all of minor league baseball in walks last season, FWIW. Also stole 49 bases. It's just when he swings the bat that things start to fall apart for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie
    He did lead all of minor league baseball in walks last season, FWIW.
    It's worth a lot. That stat right there is worth the trade, IMO.

    I think it's a good move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric
    Yea, but what's the big deal about Jones? I'm not even arguing that the kids will be anything. But what's the use of keeping Jones for three months? At least take a small shot that Machado can work out.
    I agree that Jones by himself is pretty much worthless but I was digging the idea of a Jones/Wilson package actually bringing in a high level prospect. Oh well, dare to dream I guess. It just seems like a stock broker churning an account to me, I don't see what we gained from this.

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    Re: Todd Jones traded

    Trading potential free agents is not a firesale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsRule30
    Trading potential free agents is not a firesale.

    Did anyone say it was?

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    Jones had the potential of being a valuable secondary piece in a higher profile deal. I've felt this way for awhile so this isn't strictly about the Texas rumor.

    Seriously, is there any reason this move couldn't have been made at the last minute?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc D
    I agree that Jones by himself is pretty much worthless but I was digging the idea of a Jones/Wilson package actually bringing in a high level prospect. Oh well, dare to dream I guess. It just seems like a stock broker churning an account to me, I don't see what we gained from this.
    Rest assure, we will still get some quality people from Texas if we decide to send Paul Wilson there.

    The Rangers are a Paul Wilson away from taking the West. I firmly believe that and I think they think that too.
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    Re: Todd Jones traded

    Receiving the Phillies 11th and 18th best prospects (BA 2004 prospect handbook) looks like a pretty good haul for a middle reliever at the tail end of his career, who could also be re-signed next year if desired.

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    From last year's Arizona Fall League:

    "Former Red Sox farmhand Josh Hancock (P) pitched well in a starting role (3.43 ERA, 22-9 K/BB, .253 OBA, 21 IPs); the former Red Sox pitcher was called on by the Desert Dogs to start the league championship game against the eventual champion Solar Sox .."
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    2004 Fox's sports rooke report has macrado rated 6th and hancock at 10 in the philly system.

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    This is not a firesale move....hey, we got 2 players for Todd Jones and one can pitch for us now....I can deal with this

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    I don't mind this trade.

    Hancock could be a serviceable bullpenner and Machado does three things very well - field, run and take a walk. If he can get his bat together to hit .250 or better, he's a player. He might not, but these are two guys on the cusp of the majors and one or both could turn out to be useful.
    Last edited by M2; 07-30-2004 at 11:34 PM.
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    That Jones too Texas thing was just a BS rumor. Their pen has been outstanding. They need starters. Maybe acquiring Hancock(starter) signal that Wilson and/or Lidle could be going.

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    Re: Todd Jones traded

    Top Prospects in the Triple-A International League for 2003

    Friday, September 19, 2003

    By Jonathan Mailloux, SportsTicker Staff Writer



    Starting pitchers Ryan Madson and Josh Hancock emerged as two of the best young arms in the circuit in 2003.

    Hancock, acquired from the Boston Red Sox for Jeremy Giambi last winter, was overpowering down the stretch, winning his final five decisions to post a career-high 10 wins. After off-season pelvis surgery resulted in a slow start, the 25-year-old Mississippi native rallied for a 2.94 ERA over the final two months of the season.
    Rob Neyer: "Any writer who says he'd be a better manager than the worst manager is either 1) lying (i.e. 'using poetic license') or 2) patently delusional. Which isn't to say managers don't do stupid things that you or I wouldn't."

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    Hey if we say nice things about these guys it will only jinx them. I'm trying to stay negative, don't ruin it for me


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