Rather than , explain why your point proves he is a good manager? Is there something dramatically different that he started doing that turned him from a career .471 winning percentage, or do you just assume he is a good manager based on the success of his teams? In other words, Sparky went on to become very successful in another organization with many players that had been in that organization for years and never won, like Trammel and Whitaker, and many castoffs and veterans that had some major league success but were generally not a part of winning orgs, like Johnny Grubb and Darrell Evans. Torre, on the other hand, did not do that well in three different organizations, but has won a lot with the Yankees. That should tell one that Torre is very dependant on his talent for his success, as are most major league managers. The same could have been said of Sparky if he had not gone on to Detroit and had success building a championship ballclub there. But it became clear that he was also a very important ingredient in the mix both places. Same for Piniella. I'm not sure that's true of Torre.Originally Posted by Reds4Life