Turn Off Ads?
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 31 to 40 of 40

Thread: Another day, another conspiracy theory

  1. #31
    CELEBRATION TIME RBA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    San Marcos, CA
    Posts
    13,984

    Re: Another day, another conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds4Life
    It's the hard plate in a bulletproof vest, boys and girls. When the plates are stitched in they layer kevlar around it to support the plate and offer extra protection, it tends to bulk that area up. I worked for the Secret Service for years; it's not uncommon for Presidents to wear vests during debates or public events, especially for Bush. According to some friends of mine still working their he wears one quite often. Iím surprised he wears one as often as he does, they are very uncomfortable and hot. You typically sweat you rear end off wearing one of those things.

    As for the White House saying it wasn't a vest, of course that's what they say. They will never tell you the truth on anything regarding protection details. It's Secret Service policy to NEVER divulge any information regarding presidential security.

    Well, doesn't the Secret Service have to give the same protection to the challenger (maybe not exactly the same, but close.) So a good reason the white house doesn't comment on it maybe the "Wimp" factor. As Kerry not wearing one and Bush is. The Bush people don't want to damage their meme that Bush as a hero. I don't personnally think wearing a Vest is being a wimp, but I know a lot of dumbasses that do.

  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #32
    Member Reds4Life's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    3,932

    Re: Another day, another conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by RedBloodedAmerican
    Well, doesn't the Secret Service have to give the same protection to the challenger (maybe not exactly the same, but close.) So a good reason the white house doesn't comment on it maybe the "Wimp" factor. As Kerry not wearing one and Bush is. The Bush people don't want to damage their meme that Bush as a hero. I don't personnally think wearing a Vest is being a wimp, but I know a lot of dumbasses that do.
    The level of security really isn't the same. The detail assigned to Kerry uses the same methods and tatics, but the number of agents in his detail is nothing compared to what Bush has.

    Reccomendations about vests, and other things, are made to each but the final decision remains with the principal (W or Kerry). They don't have to wear the vest, but the SS can strongly reccomend it. BTW, don't assume Kerry wasn't wearing a vest for any of those debates because I'd bet he was during at least one of them. It really doesn't have anything to do with the "wimp factor" either, it's the Secret Service procedure to never comment, so it wouldn't matter who the President is.
    Pessimists are well informed optimists

  4. #33
    CELEBRATION TIME RBA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    San Marcos, CA
    Posts
    13,984

    Re: Another day, another conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds4Life
    The level of security really isn't the same. The detail assigned to Kerry uses the same methods and tatics, but the number of agents in his detail is nothing compared to what Bush has.

    Reccomendations about vests, and other things, are made to each but the final decision remains with the principal (W or Kerry). They don't have to wear the vest, but the SS can strongly reccomend it. BTW, don't assume Kerry wasn't wearing a vest for any of those debates because I'd bet he was during at least one of them. It really doesn't have anything to do with the "wimp factor" either, it's the Secret Service procedure to never comment, so it wouldn't matter who the President is.
    I understand the Secret Service does not comment. But let's be honest, if Bush is wearing one and Kerry isn't, the White House doesn't want that known.

  5. #34
    THAT'S A FACT JACK!! GAC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    Bellefontaine, Ohio
    Posts
    26,671

    Re: Another day, another conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by RedBloodedAmerican
    I don't believe it's a wire but something completely different. Why don't the Bush people please level with the American people? Why does Bush refuse to take his annual physical delaying until after the election.

    I never said it was a wire.
    Maybe he wants to die in office?

    Your wild assumptions are bordering on the ridiculous, do you realize that? Maybe not.
    "panic" only comes from having real expectations

  6. #35
    THAT'S A FACT JACK!! GAC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    Bellefontaine, Ohio
    Posts
    26,671

    Re: Another day, another conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by RedBloodedAmerican
    I understand the Secret Service does not comment. But let's be honest, if Bush is wearing one and Kerry isn't, the White House doesn't want that known.
    Why does Kerry need one? :mhcky21:
    "panic" only comes from having real expectations

  7. #36
    Hey Cubs Fans RFS62's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    16,601

    Re: Another day, another conspiracy theory

    You guys are starting to really worry me.
    "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
    ~ Mark Twain

  8. #37
    Please come again pedro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    portland, oregon
    Posts
    14,746

    Re: Another day, another conspiracy theory

    i think it's the stick up his.......

  9. #38
    RZ Chamber of Commerce Unassisted's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    San Antonio
    Posts
    13,449

    Re: Another day, another conspiracy theory

    I had missed this wild theory.
    http://houston.indymedia.org/news/2004/12/35839.php
    George W. Bush apparently is wearing a medical device for "persons at risk of cardiac arrest." It is a LifeVest wearable defibrillator. He started using it sometime after his January 2002 fainting spell, which was attributed to choking. Based on photos showing him wearing the device, one can conclude the fainting was due to atrial fibrillation (AF), which his father also had. His father's AF was caused by Graves' hyperthyroidism, which his mother also has. Bush likely has AF and less likely Graves', based on his family history and symptoms. The AF may have caused a stroke or TIA (mini-stroke), of which physicians watching the debates detected symptoms. Observers have noted psychological symptoms consistent with this and with Wernicke-Korsakoff disease.
    /r/reds

  10. #39
    CELEBRATION TIME RBA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    San Marcos, CA
    Posts
    13,984

    Re: Another day, another conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by GAC
    Maybe he wants to die in office?

    Your wild assumptions are bordering on the ridiculous, do you realize that? Maybe not.
    Looks like my wild assumptions may not be far off the mark.

    I don't know why you guys even bother responding to me, you know I'm usually right. You do realize that? Maybe not?

  11. #40
    THAT'S A FACT JACK!! GAC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    Bellefontaine, Ohio
    Posts
    26,671

    Re: Another day, another conspiracy theory

    Nah! You're left....real far left.
    "panic" only comes from having real expectations


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | BCubb2003 | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | Plus Plus | RedlegJake | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25