The funny thing about all this is, if somehow Ohio fell to Kerry and Bush lost with 266 votes, Bush losing New Hampshire, which he won in 2000, is what would have cost him the election.Originally Posted by SteelSD
The funny thing about all this is, if somehow Ohio fell to Kerry and Bush lost with 266 votes, Bush losing New Hampshire, which he won in 2000, is what would have cost him the election.
Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David
I just flipped over to Fox and they're talking about because of the exit polls from earlier today, Kerry started to prepare his victory speech. I know I've been hard on the guy, but I feel bad for him. As recently as 6 or 7 hours ago, he thought he WAS going to be the President of the United States. It's got to be devastating as it now looks like that won't happen.
Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David
You must not be watching CBS, with the discussion of the 20,000 lawyers that will descend upon Ohio tomorrow. I don't think the Dems are planning to let the fat lady sing tonight.
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No doubt. But my biggest fear is that the challenges would continue. Bush would challenge the next closest state worth 4 or more electoral votes (Wisconsin would be a likely target) and back and forth and...blah.
They just need to divide each states Electoral College to the whole number by % of popular vote received by each candidate. God, would that be sooooo much easier.
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CBS just called Michigan for Kerry.
This is a handy page, btw.
http://www.latimes.com/news/specials...orkcalls.story
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It's gonna end up over 125,000 it looks like. Unless those lawyers get to add their vote, no way. But they'll try, and then blame Bush for being divisive. Count em all, the whole state, that's all I'll say. If I see 20,000 lawyers just in Cleveland, then I'll lose it.
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I'm not gonna lie... I am a Bush fan, BUT i never thought he was gonna win, I wanted him to win, but i didn't think it was gonna happen. But I am glad that it is looking like Ohio is a done deal... and all he needs in NM.... the hell with the rest of the states... come on OHIO and NEW MEXICO!
Kennedy is with Kerry right now at Beacon Hill. Wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall in that room!
Ted: "Lets take a drive John"
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Kennedy is with Kerry right now at Beacon Hill. Wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall in that room!
Ted: "Lets take a drive John"
Kerry - "You don't mind if I drive do you?"
Bud Selig: "I'm the worst commissioner ever"
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ABC just pointed out that if Ohio is contested and each candidate goes on to win the states they currently lead in, Ohio tips the scale in either direction.
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You feel sorry for Kerry? A guy whose response to a 123,000 vote deficit in Ohio, is "mobilize the swarm of lawyers." It's a margin 8 times higher than the % required to trigger the recount. It's a clear demonstration that contesting the previous election had nothing to do with a legitimate grievance, or the red herrings of ballot problems etc... instead it had everything to do with suing when faced with losing, and trying to selectively recount until you can win. This is a significant margin in Ohio - Bush might as well start demanding legal recourse and recounts in every state he's losing by less than the margin in Ohio - and that's a ton of them. New Hampshire, Michigan, Minnesota et al...
Why not just letting lawyers determine the outcome of sporting events, while we are at it. Let's remember which side once again opted to introduce and pursue legal recourse over democratic process, once again - because in a few days they'll be spinning it that the Republicans were the ones who reverted to litigation. That's the revisionism we'll hear, despite a clear victory.
Well, I'm going to try to go to bed. I was really hoping I would have a definitive answer by now, but it looks like it's not going to happen.
Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David
What's the premise for contesting a state which is currently being decided by a margin 8 times greater than that which is required for a recount?
Concede Kerry...don't put the country though this. It's over.
They just announced John Edwards as the next VP of he United States.
Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David
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