Where were you in September?Originally Posted by M2
Where were you in September?Originally Posted by M2
You mean like in 1992, 1993 and 1995 when Larkin had the 5th highest contract in the NL and was the highest paid shortstop in the league? I'm sure glad we have this myth about Larkin to fall back on everytime this discussion comes up.Originally Posted by M2
The ropes of the game as in teaching them how to distrust management, speak out against the team and do your own thing regardless of the rules that are in place? Yeah, he deserves a medal.And the way he took younger players under his wing and helped show them the ropes of the game, disgusting.
That's a dangerous train of thought to ride, MWM. I don't think you want to be tossing that blanket over an entire city.Originally Posted by MWM
"It's easier to give up. I'm not a very vocal player. I lead by example. I take the attitude that I've got to go out and do it. Because of who I am, I've got to give everything I've got to come back."
-Ken Griffey Jr.
I think Marty, Pete and Barry are all a little guilty of self promotion. *shrug*
:MandJ:Originally Posted by 4256 Hits
Here we go again....
"Strickland Propane... Taste the meat, not the heat." - Hank Hill
Yes, I bet if Larkin was classless and given the opportunity, he could say plenty of things that would make MARTY look like an absolute fool.Originally Posted by M2
For the past 6 years or so, Marty thinks he is some kind of a god. That he's the sole reason people tune into WLW on weekday nights at 7:30.
He gets on these crusades that are extremely annoying.. Now Barry is one of his crusades. You can bet that if Barry signs with the Cards or some other NL club, we're going to get to hear Marty slam Lark everytime the Reds play them The old fart does not know when to let things go.
In fact, I bet Marty will still be trashing Lark years after he retires. It's pretty pathetic. Time to show Marty the door.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
Here's reality. He was eligible for free agency and took less to sign with the Reds. He was coming off an MVP season. He could've easily been the highest paid player in baseball at the time. Probably gave up an extra 3-4 million/year in salary, so that the Reds could be competitive. Even the union was upset that he didn't do an ARod mercencary tour.Originally Posted by johngalt
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
Larkin was not going to be the highest-paid player in baseball at any point in his career. That would have been completely ridiculous. Highest-paid shortstop and among the best in the NL in salary? That sounds like fair market value to me.Originally Posted by REDREAD
And 2003. "I'll miss you, Rick Stowe. Here's a Mercedes. Bye-bye everyone! *wipes away a tear* What's this? A new deal? Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas one and all!"Originally Posted by Chip R
True. But there’s a big ‘ol number 5 on the back of my Reds jersey.Originally Posted by wheels
Makes all the routine posts.
Barry Larkin, as much as I love him as a player, is as much a self-aggrandizing twit as anybody in the game. But how does that excuse Marty for taking a potshot at someone who is no longer in the Reds' employ? Marty's not only self-aggrandizing, but under these circumstances, he comes off as pathetic.Originally Posted by Redsland
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
AMEN!!!! I find it SO, SO, SO ironic that Larkin wanted to "retire a Red" with this last contract (oops, he said that with the ridiculous contract before!), and yet he goes out looking for a job elsewhere. The man never wanted to retired, what he DID do was milk the Reds for all they're worth, money-wise. When they got tired of his act (as I did on the former contract), he moved on with his begging show to other teams. If anyone of those two between Marty and Barry are "classless", I'd say Barry is. Marty is one of the greatest play-by-play announcers ever, if not THE best in Reds history. Keep telling it like it is, Marty, we love ya!Originally Posted by RANDY IN CHAR NC
Originally Posted by tsj017
You just made this upcoming season THAT much more exciting for me
WRONG, wheels. You're usually on the money here, but not this time. Remember when Barry turned down the end-of-season ceremony because he was still "thinking about retirement"???? The Red DID offer a going away party, Barry turned it down. He reaped what he sowed.Originally Posted by wheels
Marty might be critical, but he doesn't hold a candle to a lot of folks here at Redszone.
Maybe Barry was less greedy than other baseball players, in his prime, but confirmed what we know about MOST baseball players, when he signed that ridiculously expensive contract as a beat-up-has-been veteran: that he is greedy. His wanting to retire a Red was just a ploy to get more money, and when the Reds said "no more, Barry", he took back all that desire to retire a Red, to get money elsewhere. How's THAT for team loyalty?Originally Posted by M2
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