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    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    I don't expect everyone to get along, to like everyone they work with. Barry Larkin simply has the class not to air his dirty laundry, making a public issue out of something that should stay in house.
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    Re: Marty lambastes Larkin

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    I especially hated when Larkin played for the Reds through his prime on below market contracts.
    You mean like in 1992, 1993 and 1995 when Larkin had the 5th highest contract in the NL and was the highest paid shortstop in the league? I'm sure glad we have this myth about Larkin to fall back on everytime this discussion comes up.

    And the way he took younger players under his wing and helped show them the ropes of the game, disgusting.
    The ropes of the game as in teaching them how to distrust management, speak out against the team and do your own thing regardless of the rules that are in place? Yeah, he deserves a medal.

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    Re: Marty lambastes Larkin

    Quote Originally Posted by MWM
    There's a reason why guys like Marty and Pete Rose are adored in Cincinnati and guys like Barry aren't.
    That's a dangerous train of thought to ride, MWM. I don't think you want to be tossing that blanket over an entire city.
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    Re: Marty lambastes Larkin

    I think Marty, Pete and Barry are all a little guilty of self promotion. *shrug*

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    Re: Marty lambastes Larkin

    Quote Originally Posted by 4256 Hits
    This just proves that just because you are a hall of famer doesn't mean you know what you are talking about.
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    Re: Marty lambastes Larkin

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    . Though declining the opportunity to bash someone else's character can be defined as courteous, respectful and professional, what it really amounts to is decent and proper.

    It's something he doesn't do. Blame his parents for raising him right.
    Yes, I bet if Larkin was classless and given the opportunity, he could say plenty of things that would make MARTY look like an absolute fool.

    For the past 6 years or so, Marty thinks he is some kind of a god. That he's the sole reason people tune into WLW on weekday nights at 7:30.

    He gets on these crusades that are extremely annoying.. Now Barry is one of his crusades. You can bet that if Barry signs with the Cards or some other NL club, we're going to get to hear Marty slam Lark everytime the Reds play them The old fart does not know when to let things go.

    In fact, I bet Marty will still be trashing Lark years after he retires. It's pretty pathetic. Time to show Marty the door.
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    Re: Marty lambastes Larkin

    Quote Originally Posted by johngalt
    You mean like in 1992, 1993 and 1995 when Larkin had the 5th highest contract in the NL and was the highest paid shortstop in the league? I'm sure glad we have this myth about Larkin to fall back on everytime this discussion comes up..
    Here's reality. He was eligible for free agency and took less to sign with the Reds. He was coming off an MVP season. He could've easily been the highest paid player in baseball at the time. Probably gave up an extra 3-4 million/year in salary, so that the Reds could be competitive. Even the union was upset that he didn't do an ARod mercencary tour.
    Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2010-2014!

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    Re: Marty lambastes Larkin

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    Here's reality. He was eligible for free agency and took less to sign with the Reds. He was coming off an MVP season. He could've easily been the highest paid player in baseball at the time. Probably gave up an extra 3-4 million/year in salary, so that the Reds could be competitive. Even the union was upset that he didn't do an ARod mercencary tour.
    Larkin was not going to be the highest-paid player in baseball at any point in his career. That would have been completely ridiculous. Highest-paid shortstop and among the best in the NL in salary? That sounds like fair market value to me.

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    Re: Marty lambastes Larkin

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R
    Barry Larkin is one of my all time favorite players but I can still see that what he did the last day of the season - not to mention the statements he made during the last month or so - was a calculated move to protest the Reds policy of not talking about contracts - namely his - until after the season. It also was a ploy to try to get the fans to rise up and demand that the Reds re-sign him similar to what happened in 2000.
    And 2003. "I'll miss you, Rick Stowe. Here's a Mercedes. Bye-bye everyone! *wipes away a tear* What's this? A new deal? Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas one and all!"

    Quote Originally Posted by wheels
    The same can be said about Johnny Bench as well. He doesn't seem to be deified as much as Pete.
    True. But there’s a big ‘ol number 5 on the back of my Reds jersey.
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    Re: Marty lambastes Larkin

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsland
    And 2003. "I'll miss you, Rick Stowe. Here's a Mercedes. Bye-bye everyone! *wipes away a tear* What's this? A new deal? Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas one and all!"


    True. But there’s a big ‘ol number 5 on the back of my Reds jersey.
    Barry Larkin, as much as I love him as a player, is as much a self-aggrandizing twit as anybody in the game. But how does that excuse Marty for taking a potshot at someone who is no longer in the Reds' employ? Marty's not only self-aggrandizing, but under these circumstances, he comes off as pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN CHAR NC
    Marty has always spoke his mind, and he goes in the clubhouse afterward to catch any flack that may arise from his comments. He's ruffled the feathers of a lot of Reds players over the years. Sure Marty has an ego, but I've seen ego's and opinions as big as Marty's here at Redszone. He has as much right to an opinion as anyone, and he tells it like it is when he is asked. I'm relatively sure that Marty has more up front information about the Larkin saga than any of us, and the Reds front office is probably not going to say much about his comments since they haven't had a lot of love for Larkin lately, either.
    AMEN!!!! I find it SO, SO, SO ironic that Larkin wanted to "retire a Red" with this last contract (oops, he said that with the ridiculous contract before!), and yet he goes out looking for a job elsewhere. The man never wanted to retired, what he DID do was milk the Reds for all they're worth, money-wise. When they got tired of his act (as I did on the former contract), he moved on with his begging show to other teams. If anyone of those two between Marty and Barry are "classless", I'd say Barry is. Marty is one of the greatest play-by-play announcers ever, if not THE best in Reds history. Keep telling it like it is, Marty, we love ya!

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    Re: Marty lambastes Larkin

    Quote Originally Posted by tsj017
    Marty ROCKS.

    :gac: :gac:

    As usual, he gives it to us straight, no chaser. Also as usual, it's a bit too strong for some Reds fans who prefer rah-rah cheerleading Kool-Aid to the hard stuff.

    Classless? I'd go so far as to say Larkin's self-choreographed departure was unprecedented in baseball history. Has a departing player ever gone to such self-indulgent lengths? Taking himself out of the game. Addressing his public. Sitting with his family. What a prima donna.

    By the way . . . Larkin hasn't signed yet, right? Could it be that Barry overestimated the demand for his services anywhere but Cincinnati? And in the end, he overestimated even that.

    I look forward to a season of Reds baseball mercifully free of the annual Barry Larkin melodrama. He's gone, and Marty's still here.

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    You just made this upcoming season THAT much more exciting for me

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    Re: Marty lambastes Larkin

    Quote Originally Posted by wheels
    Ummmm...What are you talking about?

    Self indulgent?

    Everyone from the bottum up knew that game was his last as a Red.

    Most great players get a proper sendoff, and he got nothing. While I realize they had something lined up, and Barry decided otherwise, but as far as a sendoff goes, that one was pretty tame and hardly self indulgent.
    WRONG, wheels. You're usually on the money here, but not this time. Remember when Barry turned down the end-of-season ceremony because he was still "thinking about retirement"???? The Red DID offer a going away party, Barry turned it down. He reaped what he sowed.

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    Re: Marty lambastes Larkin

    Marty might be critical, but he doesn't hold a candle to a lot of folks here at Redszone.

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    Re: Marty lambastes Larkin

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    I especially hated when Larkin played for the Reds through his prime on below market contracts. And the way he took younger players under his wing and helped show them the ropes of the game, disgusting.

    He should be shot.
    Maybe Barry was less greedy than other baseball players, in his prime, but confirmed what we know about MOST baseball players, when he signed that ridiculously expensive contract as a beat-up-has-been veteran: that he is greedy. His wanting to retire a Red was just a ploy to get more money, and when the Reds said "no more, Barry", he took back all that desire to retire a Red, to get money elsewhere. How's THAT for team loyalty?


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