Yeah, conservatives are just stupid fascist hicks, so of course they don't understand conservatism. Fortunately there are liberals to explain it all, but please don't use any big words.Originally Posted by RedBloodedAmerican
Yeah, conservatives are just stupid fascist hicks, so of course they don't understand conservatism. Fortunately there are liberals to explain it all, but please don't use any big words.Originally Posted by RedBloodedAmerican
Last edited by RedsBaron; 01-09-2005 at 01:56 PM.
"Hey...Dad. Wanna Have A Catch?" Kevin Costner in "Field Of Dreams."
I didn't know we had a choice, either vote for Bush or ???
Originally Posted by cincinnati chili
That's much better. I'm no longer offended.
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We'll go down in history as the first society that wouldn't save itself because it wasn't cost effective ~ Kurt Vonnegut
Originally Posted by Chip R
I think a lot of US citizens, no matter what their political affiliation, subconsciously feel bad about how well off they are compared to the rest of the world, and thus have to erect a "victim complex" so they, too, can feel downtrodden and oppressed.
Everyone wants to be a martyr, just so long as they don't have to actually suffer for it.
In summation, I believe most US citizens are spoiled, whiny little babies.
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I think that nobody on either side wants to be called a fascist, or ignorant, or a hick.
We'll go down in history as the first society that wouldn't save itself because it wasn't cost effective ~ Kurt Vonnegut
What I love most about these threads are how people post new thoughts and so many minds are changed.
Will trade this space for a #1 starter.
Welcome to the system
Here's the situation
It's a bit confusing
Welcome to the maze
Everybody sees what
Everybody wants to
Everyone avoids
Every other gaze
I will be your mentor
I'll be your advisor
I'll do what I do
And you will look away
Forgetting what you see
Has always been much wiser
But someone in the back is missing what I say
Got a complaint in the system
Got a complaint in the system
Welcome to the park now
We supply amusements
Everybody rides
But everybody pays
What good's causing problems
When no one's complaining
What good is a martyr
If no one is saved
Everybody knows us
Everybody sees us
Every single child
Can tell you where we are
Every politician
Says that we are leaving
But in all this time
We haven't gone too far
Got a complaint in the system
Got a complaint in the system
You should understand it
It's not underhanded
It's really quite simple you see
The right and the wrong of it
Long and the short of it
Black and the white of it
Forget the sight of it
It is so much cheaper
To be no one's keeper
Trust me
In the dead of the night
You can stab with a knife
But it's rare you'll ever get anywhere
So we laugh in delight
Till you turn on a light
And we scatter for the darkness
Or the corners filled with blackness
And we're
There
There
Where
Where
There
"Complaint in the System"-Savatage
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My favorite is people who act like they're above it all and yet post anyway.Originally Posted by creek14
See the winkie? That made what I said harmless!
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Gee I don't recall posting I was above it all.Originally Posted by Redsfaithful
Trying to change someone’s political views is like trying to convince BadFundamentals that Dunn is a stud at the plate. Trying to change someone’s political views by posting the same thing in 100 different threads still isn’t going to change minds.
And name-calling, which all of these threads degenerate to (even when one inserts a ), is never going to win anyone to the other side.
It's just an exercise in futility.
Last edited by creek14; 01-10-2005 at 08:52 AM.
Will trade this space for a #1 starter.
You're probably right, honestly. I enjoy debating issues, but I'm seeing less and less of that. I'm not sure how to fix that, but I'd like to see a better environment to discuss things. Maybe that's impossible. I try to be respectful, but the condescending attitudes and trolling from certain people has been getting ridiculous lately.Originally Posted by creek14
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
i think quite honestly, i'm the only person who's had any of their politcal views changed by these threads in the course of almost 2 years now......
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I too dislike the condescending attitudes I see some posters here exhibit. Examples would include statements to the effect that while not all Republicans are stupid, most stupid people are Republicans and statements asserting that consservatives don't understand conservatism.Originally Posted by Redsfaithful
I also find it a bit much to equate the "religious right" with Nazis and the Holocaust and to try to blame people of faith for every evil that has ever exited in the world. Probably adherents no ideology have ever murdered more people than have adherents to communism, which is officially athiestic.
"Hey...Dad. Wanna Have A Catch?" Kevin Costner in "Field Of Dreams."
Wow, dragging up something I said over a year ago. Can't get anything past you.Originally Posted by RedsBaron
Please show me how George W. Bush has taken conservative actions with anything that he's done. I guess he cut taxes, but the government has gotten massive.and statements asserting that consservatives don't understand conservatism.
Why do we need a Department of Homeland Security again when we have a Department of Defense?
Your right to disagree, but I'm not sure I see how that's condescending?I also find it a bit much to equate the "religious right" with Nazis and the Holocaust and to try to blame people of faith for every evil that has ever exited in the world.
Stalin killed a lot of people, but Germany was considered a Christian nation. I'm sorry you dislike that, but everything Hitler did was done in the name of God.Probably adherents no ideology have ever murdered more people than have adherents to communism, which is officially athiestic.
You can't just pass off evil things that Christians have done as not counting simply because you don't really consider those people to be Christians. That's not the way it works. Because politically active Christians in this country want a free pass for whatever they do, because they feel God wants them to do it. There were Germans who felt the same way. People in this country are being denied Constitutional rights because of other people's religious beliefs. If people could simply practice their own religion and stop trying to impose it on others I don't think anyone would have a problem.
Religious fundamentalism is fundamentally oppressive.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Originally Posted by Redsfaithful
Now I really have heard it all.
We'll go down in history as the first society that wouldn't save itself because it wasn't cost effective ~ Kurt Vonnegut
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