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    Re: San Francisco considers fee on grocery bags

    I think it's ridiculous, but I don't have any problems finding secondary uses for paper or plastic bags. (Another situation where the small business owner should decide, not the government, IMO.)

    On a related and opposite note: I think the Cincinnati area sucks at recycling. They don't make it very easy and it costs more to do it. (That may be state wide. I wasn't sure.)

    New York does a much better job. We used to separate, wash and break down everything. It didn't cost more. We had bins that went out with our trash. They would not pick up your trash if there were things in there that should be recycled. You just got used to doing it, and felt good about doing it.

    It's bizarre to me to throw a soda can away. We used to take them the the Blue Ash recycling center but it just wasn't convenient to do all the time.

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    Re: San Francisco considers fee on grocery bags

    Oh boy... Great idea. Here are some more (fair is fair)...

    How about we start taxing all non-environmentalist kids who have the nerve to buy notebook paper? $0.17 per sheet.

    How about we start taxing all non-environmentalist soda drinkers who have the nerve to buy plastic 2-Liter containers? $1.17/container.

    How about we start taxing all non-environmentalist parents and grandparents who have the nerve to buy plastic Fisher-Price toys for kids? $17.00 per toy.

    How about we start taxing all non-environmentalist stoners who have the nerve to use rolling papers to smoke their dope? $0.17/joint.

    How about we start taxing all non-environmentalist people who have the nerve to buy a Lexmark printer (HP and the rest too)? $100/year to cover all paper that will be used in the printer for one year.

    How about we start taxing all non-environmentalist body shops? $7 per paper floormat that is used to keep your floorboard clean.

    How about we start taxing all non-environmentalist eateries who have the nerve to put paper placemats on the table? $0.17/placemat.

    I could go on... but I think you get the point. For a city who prides itself on diversity, fair is fair. Right?
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    Re: San Francisco considers fee on grocery bags

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamCasey
    I think it's ridiculous, but I don't have any problems finding secondary uses for paper or plastic bags. (Another situation where the small business owner should decide, not the government, IMO.)

    On a related and opposite note: I think the Cincinnati area sucks at recycling. They don't make it very easy and it costs more to do it. (That may be state wide. I wasn't sure.)

    New York does a much better job. We used to separate, wash and break down everything. It didn't cost more. We had bins that went out with our trash. They would not pick up your trash if there were things in there that should be recycled. You just got used to doing it, and felt good about doing it.

    It's bizarre to me to throw a soda can away. We used to take them the the Blue Ash recycling center but it just wasn't convenient to do all the time.
    I used to shop at a Thriftway before it closed and they had a bin where you could put your plastic bags in to recycle. I really liked that. Unfortunately Kroger or Biggs doesn't have that. I'm pretty close to two recycling dropoff areas. One in Cheviot and another in Green Township. I need to go there cause I have a lot of cans I have to take over there. Iowa has a nickel deposit on the cans but I think fewer places are taking them back. In Kansas, they didn't have a deposit but you had to crush your cans before you took them back to the recycling place.
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    Re: San Francisco considers fee on grocery bags

    Some people say that it's better to use plastic bags vs paper if you are away from coastline areas. The theory is that the plastic bags take less space in the landfill than the amount of paper bags to hold the same amount of groceries.
    Once they are in the landfill, it really doesn't matter if they break down.

    If they are going to charge 17 cents, how about if you get your 17 cents back if you recycle the plastic bags? We save all ours and take them to kroger to get recycled. Although you never know if the stores actually recycle them or just toss them.. I had a buddy working at radio shack part time. They had bins for people to turn in dead batteries, since batteries contain hazardous substances.. The batteries ended up getting tossed in the dumpster

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    Re: San Francisco considers fee on grocery bags

    I wouldn't want to use a recycled bag for my groceries. I don't think it's sanitary. We've all bought chicken and other meats that are sticky/leaky.

    Imagine that dripping in your bag that you recycle. Next person buys bread or fruit and uses the Salmonella bag that's been fermenting in some bin.

    Yuck!

    Give me a fresh bag ..... we re-use them all around the house. The chicken one gets used for garbage.

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    Re: San Francisco considers fee on grocery bags

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamCasey
    I wouldn't want to use a recycled bag for my groceries. I don't think it's sanitary. We've all bought chicken and other meats that are sticky/leaky.

    Imagine that dripping in your bag that you recycle. Next person buys bread or fruit and uses the Salmonella bag that's been fermenting in some bin.

    Yuck!

    Give me a fresh bag ..... we re-use them all around the house. The chicken one gets used for garbage.
    Don't they recycle them for other purposes?
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    Re: San Francisco considers fee on grocery bags

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R
    Don't they recycle them for other purposes?
    I thought the stores took them back to reuse them.

    I really don't know.

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    Re: San Francisco considers fee on grocery bags

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamCasey
    I thought the stores took them back to reuse them.

    I really don't know.

    I think the plastic is shredded, cleaned and used again in manufacturing. I think they can use a certian precentage of recycled material in the manufacture of "new" bags.. don't worry, you won't get your groceries in someone's used dog poop bag :MandJ:

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    Re: San Francisco considers fee on grocery bags

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Tucker
    If they ban plastic grocery bags, what will I use for dog poop bags?

    How about cat poop bags too? I use them when I clean out the litter box. I guess I wll have to teach my cat to flush!

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    Re: San Francisco considers fee on grocery bags

    There you go. I learned something out of all this.

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    Re: San Francisco considers fee on grocery bags

    Quote Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966
    Oh boy... Great idea. Here are some more (fair is fair)...

    How about we start taxing all non-environmentalist kids who have the nerve to buy notebook paper? $0.17 per sheet.

    How about we start taxing all non-environmentalist soda drinkers who have the nerve to buy plastic 2-Liter containers? $1.17/container.

    How about we start taxing all non-environmentalist parents and grandparents who have the nerve to buy plastic Fisher-Price toys for kids? $17.00 per toy.

    How about we start taxing all non-environmentalist stoners who have the nerve to use rolling papers to smoke their dope? $0.17/joint.

    How about we start taxing all non-environmentalist people who have the nerve to buy a Lexmark printer (HP and the rest too)? $100/year to cover all paper that will be used in the printer for one year.

    How about we start taxing all non-environmentalist body shops? $7 per paper floormat that is used to keep your floorboard clean.

    How about we start taxing all non-environmentalist eateries who have the nerve to put paper placemats on the table? $0.17/placemat.

    I could go on... but I think you get the point. For a city who prides itself on diversity, fair is fair. Right?

    I'm in favor of a $0.17 tax on every "angry white guy" post on a message board.
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    Re: San Francisco considers fee on grocery bags

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro
    I'm in favor of a $0.17 tax on every "angry white guy" post on a message board.

    :MandJ:

    The internet: the last bastion of anonymous hatred. All of the hate, all of the impunity...all of the time.

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    Re: San Francisco considers fee on grocery bags

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro
    I'm in favor of a $0.17 tax on every "angry white guy" post on a message board.
    Dude, you're going to send me to the poorhouse before Allen retires..

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    Re: San Francisco considers fee on grocery bags

    How do they do that?

    17 cents.

    Where does that come from? 15 cents wasn't good enough? 20 cents would be too much? Did they draw numbers out of a hat?

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    Re: San Francisco considers fee on grocery bags

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD
    Dude, you're going to send me to the poorhouse before Allen retires..
    I think a loop hole for reds related rants would be appropriate.
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