Sorry. Should I change my opinions for you? Nah...Originally Posted by pedro
Don't agree with me? Too bad. Just tax me or something. Sorry that I am angry if I do not agree with you. And from reading this board you must assume I am very angry all the time. I'll take that as a compliment... of coure! Me so happy!
I am sure President Bush would agree... don't ya think?
There are stores here that give you .05 off if you bring your own bag. A lot of people do it too.
School's out. What did you expect?
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...AG0DB00F41.DTL
That article should give you some insight into the maturity level of the fine folks in charge of San Francisco.
Its the "three kids" part that's an anomoly. I don't see many of those in this town.But if you are a single mother with 3 kids trying to make ends meet on fifteen grand a year, it will definitely hurt.
Live in SF or have kids -- take your pick.
I thought about the regressiveness factor but you figure if you use five bags a week, that's 85 cents or $44.20 a year.
They must not be "angry white guys". Of course only "angry white guys" don't agree with taxing some plastic and paper products, but not all. Sounds fair, right? I'll let my friends on the other-side answer that. Perhaps instead of attacking they can actually address the issue. Tell us "angry white guys" why it is fair to tax some paper/plastic but not all? Why is a grocery paperbag any different than any other paper (does the brown color matter?)? I expect a "non-angry, non-white, non-sex" type of answer... and smoking reefer before answering is cheating!
Believe it or not... patience is on my side. So I will wait for your educated answers. Hard to believe that an "angry white guy" type can have patience... but so true.
I never said I was in favor of the bag tax.
As for a response perhaps I missed the "educated" or "thoughtful" aspects of your original post, I guess they were lost in the sarcastic old man ranting.
I'm just worried about you having a stroke "friend". Maybe you ought to "light one up". You sure talk about it enough.
School's out. What did you expect?
for the record, I'm not in favor of a "bag tax". I think it's regressive and somewhat arbitrary.
School's out. What did you expect?
Don't forget that high-per-capita incomes, consistently high levels of tourism and the accolades of being one of the most beautiful cities in the world.This is what happens when you let hippies congregate. I've been warning people for years.
Now the question is "what happens when you let hicks congregate?"
Answer: Branson, MO
Almost forgot,
now, now, children...once again a thread goes from educated debate to just this side of personal attacks. No, I'm not a mod here, and I'm fairly new so I don't really know all the personallities yet...but I do appreciate when people have the opportunity to intellegently exchange ideas, and I dislike people that act in such a way to have those opportunities taken from us.
The seven most magic words in all the land...
"If, in the opinion of the referee,..."
Does anyone else doubt a study by environmentalists in California?Environmentalists say plastic bags jam machinery, pollute waterways, suffocate wildlife and often end up as eyesores in trees or bushes. San Francisco shoppers bring home about 50 million bags each year, according to an environmental study.
"In my day you had musicians who experimented with drugs. Now it's druggies experimenting with music" - Alfred G Clark (circa 1972)
I don't.
I just don't think creating a tax on the bags is a good idea.
School's out. What did you expect?
I lived in California for 19 years... so I'd say..... No.Does anyone else doubt a study by environmentalists in California?
But you're an environmentailst aren't you?
"In my day you had musicians who experimented with drugs. Now it's druggies experimenting with music" - Alfred G Clark (circa 1972)
Yeah *shudder* that's me.But you're an environmentailst aren't you?
God knows we're a bunch of whack jobs.
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