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    Re: Reds trade Dustin Moseley for Ramon Ortiz

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    That's like saying you need to hit the Power Ball jackpot in order to pay your bills.
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    Re: Reds trade Dustin Moseley for Ramon Ortiz

    This thread needs to go in the archives just for its brilliant use of metaphors.
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    Re: Reds trade Dustin Moseley for Ramon Ortiz

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    I'm willing to bet anyone who will take it that Corey Lidle outperforms Ramon Ortiz in 2005. Any taker?
    I'll take it.
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    Re: Reds trade Dustin Moseley for Ramon Ortiz

    Quote Originally Posted by Puffy
    I'll take it.
    Name the bet. And I don't the cheap stuff either. :
    Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David

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    Re: Reds trade Dustin Moseley for Ramon Ortiz

    Quote Originally Posted by MWM
    Name the bet. And I don't the cheap stuff either. :
    Ahhhhh, no, no, no - you started the bet, so you get to call it :allovrjr:
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    Re: Reds trade Dustin Moseley for Ramon Ortiz

    Quote Originally Posted by MWM
    This thread needs to go in the archives just for its brilliant use of metaphors.
    Ah, but beyond a certain point, our archives are like the Library at Alexandria.


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    Re: Reds trade Dustin Moseley for Ramon Ortiz

    Quote Originally Posted by Puffy
    Ahhhhh, no, no, no - you started the bet, so you get to call it :allovrjr:
    I'll have to take some time to think about what I want.
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    Re: Reds trade Dustin Moseley for Ramon Ortiz

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsland
    Ah, but beyond a certain point, our archives are like the Library at Alexandria.
    Actually I think we're underarchived. I'm amazed we never got the 2003 Lidle signing thread in the archives. Likewise, Sandy's 1940 World Series thread isn't in there. A lot of pre-season predictions didn't make it either.
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    Re: Reds trade Dustin Moseley for Ramon Ortiz

    Agreed. I meant in the sense that the Library of Alexandria's collection, which was once the pride of antiquity, is now lost. Not unlike countless "Caption This Picture" threads.
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    Re: Reds trade Dustin Moseley for Ramon Ortiz

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsland
    Agreed. I meant in the sense that the Library of Alexandria's collection, which was once the pride of antiquity, is now lost. Not unlike countless "Caption This Picture" threads.
    So if this thread isn't preserved we could be looking at a new Dark Ages, hmm ...
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    Re: Reds trade Dustin Moseley for Ramon Ortiz

    Quote Originally Posted by MWM
    I'm willing to bet anyone who will take it that Corey Lidle outperforms Ramon Ortiz in 2005. Any taker?
    What are the categories to define "outperforms"?
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    Re: Reds trade Dustin Moseley for Ramon Ortiz

    Quote Originally Posted by CougarQuest
    What are the categories to define "outperforms"?
    Name it. All of them. OPS against, WHIP, ERA (park adjusted).
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    Re: Reds trade Dustin Moseley for Ramon Ortiz

    Not that I'm all about Ramon MWM, but I just have a strong distaste for what Lidle brings to the mound.

    Maybe I don't have enough familiarity with Ortiz to breed that type of contempt, but I'll take that bet.

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    Re: Reds trade Dustin Moseley for Ramon Ortiz

    Here is the question I ask myself after this trade. Are the Reds a better baseball team today than they were yesterday because of this deal? The answer has to be yes. I really like the trade. I think he will win 12 or 13 games.

    Everyone seams to think that not tendering DeAngelo Jimenez another contract is a bad thing. Guys, it's DeAngelo Jimenez, Ryan Freel is a better player and cheaper too.

    Maybe this means that the "Kearns Project" is going well.

    I'm optimistic.
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    Re: Reds trade Dustin Moseley for Ramon Ortiz

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpup
    Here is the question I ask myself after this trade. Are the Reds a better baseball team today than they were yesterday because of this deal? The answer has to be yes. I really like the trade. I think he will win 12 or 13 games.

    Everyone seams to think that not tendering DeAngelo Jimenez another contract is a bad thing. Guys, it's DeAngelo Jimenez, Ryan Freel is a better player and cheaper too.

    Maybe this means that the "Kearns Project" is going well.

    I'm optimistic.
    Better player or not, its not wise to get caught up in a "is not, is too" arguement. However, you can not deny that Jimenez indeed has SOME value, and it would be wise to capitalize. Nontendering, as far as I am concerned, is not even an option. We sign him, we either play him or trade him, end of story. Nontendering is reserved for players with very little or distant past, and no future, of which Jimenez is neither. Stat line:

    .270 AVG, .364 OBP, 12 HRs, 13 SB, 67 RBI, and most importantly, he led the league in pitches taken per at bat. I see value there.
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