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Thread: Reitsma Traded to the Braves.

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    How bout about Haynes to Hemptations for a pipe cleaner, and a tie dye t-shirt?

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    Wuh-oh...better start making some room on the ol' bandwagon :mhcky21:

    I will miss Reitsma's Bug's Bunny changeup and humble demeanor during interviews. OTOH, RH relievers are something the Reds always have in abundance or can easily acquire/develope. Kudos to DanO for sticking to "the plan" even if he has difficulty articulating it suavely when on the air
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    Good deal for both clubs yet if the GAB contend in 03 plan had gone smoothly, Reitsma was a keeper. When it painfully failed, it was time to turn the team over and acquire young inexpensive prospects with upside. This kind of deal is what I was expecting over the winter. Unfortunately, they don't have much else to deal.

    Yet if Reitsma's increasing salary was the main motivation to move him, then Dunn's time may as a Red might be limited. Wonder if they have any intentions to lockup kearns and/or Dunn LT soon?

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    Originally posted by westofyou
    Because we all know how well the Japanese and Koreans get along.
    Well.. see... now ...


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    Time will tell if this is a good trade or not.

    But it concerns me that an organization known for developing pitching gave these two guys up so easily. What do they see in Chris? Or what don't they see in Cheech and Chong, errr Bubba and Bong?
    Will trade this space for a #1 starter.

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    Originally posted by Doc. Scott
    Redread, I don't see why anyone would think we were "forced" to trade Reitsma (well, other than you and a few others who seem to really enjoy the ol' conspiracy theories).
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    IMO,.the writing was on the wall. Chris tried to get 1.5 million last year. Chris doesn't seem to
    be the happiest guy here.

    Chris doesn't appear to be a guy that will take less to stay in Cincy.

    Chris was projected as the primary setup man. The risk is that he'd have
    a good year, and try to get 1.5-2.5 million for 2005. He'd probably take
    them to arb again. I don't think the Reds are willing to pay that much for
    Reitsma. After all, they refused to pay Heredia the money he would've
    been due in 2004 (Ballpark range around 1.7 million?)

    I said long ago that there was no way Chris was coming back in 2005, based
    on what I have said above. I can't prove it, but I assume he was marked to
    be gone for next year. It just makes sense. Allen is stuck with a lot of
    big contracts that can't be moved, so he's going to focus on moving salaries
    he can. Chris was due a big payday next year.

    And I will say right now, I doubt LaRue is coming back in 2005 either. I'm
    not as sure as I was on Reitsma, but I doubt he's coming back.
    Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2010-2014!

    Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!

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    But it concerns me that an organization known for developing pitching gave these two guys up so easily.
    Tiny window, closing fast and no setup men for J.S.

    That's how I see it.

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    Oh, I agree that LaRue is 95% likely to be outta here after the season, if not before the end. Reitsma might have stuck around a while longer if the team liked him in a certain role.

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    Originally posted by westofyou
    Is this a "fact" or just what you "think?"
    They both pitched in middle relief last year, right?

    Didn't one of those clippings say Bubba was moved into the
    pen to prepare him for arrival in Atlanta after starting most
    of his minor league career?

    I would think that if their long term plan was to make Bubba a starter, he would've stayed
    in the rotation in the minors
    Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2010-2014!

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    Originally posted by westofyou
    Tiny window, closing fast and no setup men for J.S.

    That's how I see it.
    I am also usually wary of Braves pitching prospects, but I think WOY hit it on the head.

    Marty points out that Casey and LaRue are upset. Do these guys have to throw little baby fits with every trade? This is not the church softball team where playing with your buddies is more important than being any good.

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    Originally posted by Doc. Scott
    Oh, I agree that LaRue is 95% likely to be outta here after the season, if not before the end. Reitsma might have stuck around a while longer if the team liked him in a certain role.
    I think that Reitsma's attempt to hardball them in arb put him on Allen's blacklist.

    If he had humbly accepted the Red's first offering, they might've assumed he'd be an easy sign for 2005 and
    kept him in their plans.

    And I'm guessing that joke of a demotion in the beggining of last year (to keep Jimmy Anderson and the Gonad)
    created a lot of bad feelings between Chris and the Reds.
    No way was he ever going to accomodate them in contract talks.
    Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2010-2014!

    Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!

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    Me rikey very mucho!

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    Oh, geez, like a player's not supposed to fight for himself in arbitration? Geez, gimme a break.

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    They both pitched in middle relief last year, right?
    By that theory I guess Wade Miller and Roy Oswalt were earmarked to be MR when they came up.

    FYI the Braves had much problems in MR last year, especially post AS game from the left side, any usage of young live ams in situational spots doesn't mean that that is their role forever.

    Bong 104 ML starts out of 119 apperances.

    Nelson 76 ML starts out of 106 apperances.

    I'd say that they aren't earmarked for anything just yet.

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    Two starters who are ready (or virtually ready) to start in the majors for a set-up man beginning to make big money is a fabulous trade.

    Nelson was rated ahead of Wainright by Baseball America.

    This is a great deal.


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