Anti Milton

[barnesje]

i realize this is a little late to make this post, but lets be honest, Eric Milton is a joke. 43 HRs given up in 201 innings (average of 5.9 innings per start) He averages one homer given up every 4.6 innings and that number will only increase playing at GABP. So, hes receiving 8.5 million for a 4.75 ERA and those horrible numbers??? Jaret Wright would have been a cheaper, younger and much better option for his club. Wade miller, with a 3.35 ERA, is in Boston right now with with a 1.5 million dollar base salary. SO, would you rather have eric Miltion or Jaret Wright and Wade Miller...both younger and better. I like the signing of Wilson, Ortiz, Randa, Merker, (Ben Webber will be a disaster) but Milton will disappoint just wait.

[Boss-Hog]

I have a feeling you'll fit right in around here.

[jmcclain19]

Jaret Wright and Wade Miller went to the two teams who are regularly in the Top 2 or 3 in baseball, year after year.

Miller did so the day after he was released.

To regard the Reds as having a chance to sign either is a fallacy.

[flyer85]

I would rather have signed Uncle Milton.

[deltachi8]

I would rather have signed Uncle Milton.

would have brought out the ladies to the park...

[westofyou]

The Reds didn't have any jerseys with a head hole big enough for Wrights giant melon so they had to pass.

[CaiGuy]

i realize this is a little late to make this post, but lets be honest, Eric Milton is a joke. 43 HRs given up in 201 innings (average of 5.9 innings per start) He averages one homer given up every 4.6 innings and that number will only increase playing at GABP. So, hes receiving 8.5 million for a 4.75 ERA and those horrible numbers??? Jaret Wright would have been a cheaper, younger and much better option for his club. Wade miller, with a 3.35 ERA, is in Boston right now with with a 1.5 million dollar base salary. SO, would you rather have eric Miltion or Jaret Wright and Wade Miller...both younger and better. I like the signing of Wilson, Ortiz, Randa, Merker, (Ben Webber will be a disaster) but Milton will disappoint just wait.

As much as I hate it, your probably right. Milton is way overrated and overpaid. Even though it is in the realm of possibility that he'll brake out, he could be a flop. But remember, even though is numbers aren't that great, He's one of the best the Reds have. As far as the other "better, cheaper, younger" free agents, they weren't going to sign with the Reds even if the reds tried to sign them and hugely overpaid them anyways.

[Redsland]

Someday the Anti Milton will come in glory to hurl nasty, breaking thunderbolts and smite our enemies.

It has been prophesized.

[flyer85]

It has been prophesized.

Would that be a really big prophecy?

[red-in-la]

Pullleeesssseee.....another we overpaid for Eric Milton thread....just what we needed to enliven a rainy Friday afternoon.....

In case you haven't realized (and I know his numbers have been high) but the Phillies park gives up TONS and TONS of HR's.....the guy still won 14 games.

Did you notice any other 14 game winners on the Reds roster?

When you find one, then post it.

[flyer85]

Did you notice any other 14 game winners on the Reds roster?

Jimmy Haynes - he won 15 once.

[red-in-la]

Jimmy Haynes - he won 15 once.

I meant last year......

The Reds now have TWO pitchers who have won 16 games in a year in the ML in their rotation, but I don't heard many folks thanking the FO much.

[westofyou]

I meant last year......

The Reds now have TWO pitchers who have won 16 games in a year in the ML in their rotation, but I don't heard many folks thanking the FO much.

Because wins are often a result of the teams effort more than the pitchers.

SEASON
2004

WINS displayed only--not a sorting criteria
ERA vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria
RSAA displayed only--not a sorting criteria
AGE displayed only--not a sorting criteria

HOMERUNS                        HR        W       ERA     RSAA      AGE    
1    Jamie Moyer                  44        7     -.58      -22       41   
2    Eric Milton                  43       14     -.43       -9       28   
T3   Darrell May                  38        9     -.98      -25       32   
T3   Bartolo Colon                38       18     -.37      -10       31   
T5   Greg Maddux                  35       16     0.29       13       38   
T5   Matt Morris                  35       15     -.41      -12       29   
7    Jon Garland                  34       12     -.26        1       24   
T8   Ismael Valdes                33       14     -.87      -22       30   
T8   Jose Lima                    33       13     0.25        1       31   
T8   Brian Anderson               33        6    -1.00      -22       32   
T8   Javier Vazquez               33       14     -.27      -10       27   
T8   Mark Buehrle                 33       16     0.75       29       25   
T8   Ryan Franklin                33        4     -.26      -14       31   
T8   Scott Elarton                33        3    -1.35      -21       28

[flyer85]

I meant last year......

The Reds now have TWO pitchers who have won 16 games in a year in the ML in their rotation, but I don't heard many folks thanking the FO much.

Haynes pitched last year and I never thanked the FO for signing him. As a matter of fact I took JBs name in vain that day(more than once after I heard he gave him a player option).

[deltachi8]

I meant last year......

The Reds now have TWO pitchers who have won 16 games in a year in the ML in their rotation, but I don't heard many folks thanking the FO much.

I refer you to Jimmy Haynes once more as evidence of how much weight the "wins" statistic holds.