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    President Bush may make pitch for commish job

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    Jon Heyman
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    April 17, 2005

    What if President Bush decides after his term's up, he wants to go back into baseball?

    It sounds farfetched - even fanciful - but two people who knew him well from his days as Rangers managing partner told Newsday they still envision Bush wanting to become baseball commissioner.

    "That's a job he'd want," one of Bush's baseball friends insisted.

    "He'd be a great commissioner," former commissioner Fay Vincent said. "But I don't think the owners would ever again hire someone who isn't one of them to be commissioner. A former president becoming commissioner ... I think that would be highly unlikely." Vincent added: "I'd advise him not to do it. It's a very tough job, a losing situation."

    White House spokesman Ken Lisaius said: "The president remains focused on a full plate of priorities in his current job. His focus remains on the work that's important to the American people. He certainly has a love for the game of baseball. But we don't get into hypotheticals." Ah, but we do.

    We recall how Bush, before running for governor of Texas, looked into becoming commissioner. The story goes that Bush went to Bud Selig, then head of baseball's executive council, for advice. There's divergence of opinion as to what happened next, but Vincent claimed, "Bud led him on." If true, Selig beat Bush at his own game of politics. "Bud definitely led him on," Vincent asserted. "Bud will deny it."

    Selig declined comment, but MLB people insist that isn't true and that Selig - whose contract runs through 2009 - is still close to Bush. MLB people say Vincent has an ax to grind and point out that Bush and Selig recently had a long visit in the Oval Office and sat together for five innings at the Nationals' home opener Thursday night. But Vincent said: "I don't think they're particularly friendly. They're together because Bud's the commissioner, and the president has to deal with him."

    Bush continues to show interest in baseball issues, particularly steroids. Some may think Bush is undercutting Selig by continually mentioning that problem, but Selig's people say the commissioner welcomes support for the tougher policies Selig seeks.

    Bush talks a good game. But what's his record in baseball? Our one complaint with Selig is his understatement of baseball's 1990s steroid problem. But Bush is no better on this score.

    Bush's response to Jose Can- seco's charge that Bush had to know about the steroid problem was to deny it and point to denials of use by former Rangers stars Juan Gonzalez, Pudge Rodriguez and Rafael Palmeiro as proof that Canseco was off base. Palmeiro scored with his denial in congress, but Bush's attempt to create an impression there wasn't use among Rangers is folly.

    Politics aside, Bush's Rangers record was spotty. Under him, the Rangers traded Sammy Sosa and Wilson Alvarez for aging Harold Baines, Scott Fletcher and Fred Manrique - perhaps the worst trade of the past quarter century.

    Bush was the only owner to vote against the wild card, a vote suggesting that Bush was either upset at Selig or out of touch. As owner, the most noteworthy thing Bush did was make money, for himself.
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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    sounds good to me.
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    If Bud would have only listened.
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    Talk about the death of baseball. First steroids, then Dubya.

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    A former president becoming commissioner ... I think that would be highly unlikely." Vincent added: "I'd advise him not to do it. It's a very tough job, a losing situation."
    Are you kidding me? Leader of the free world, continually seeing reports of terrorist activity and possible attacks on our homeland, trying to find a way to get rid of incomes taxes, looking into a way for everyone to agree on fixing social security (dont give me that crap that its perfectly fine), listening to wimps like Shroeder and Chirac and Fay thinks being a commish would be a "very tough job, a losing situation"??? WTH is Fay drinking? Fay has not a clue what the pressure a person has as president. Half the country hates him and 75% of the world hates him regardless of political affiliation...

    No, being a commissioner would be like a lemonaide stand compared to "presidenting" (Will Ferrell mocking Bush)
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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    Quote Originally Posted by johngalt
    Talk about the death of baseball. First steroids, then Dubya.
    Yea...because Bush will mandate the Bible on all the players and force all players pay a fine for having kids out of wedlock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith288
    Yea...because Bush will mandate the Bible on all the players and force all players pay a fine for having kids out of wedlock?
    I don't think Pokey Reese would be able to make a living if that happened.
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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    Quote Originally Posted by smith288
    Are you kidding me?

    No, being a commissioner would be like a lemonaide stand compared to "presidenting" (Will Ferrell mocking Bush)
    I thought the same thing, smith, when I first read this thread. Evidently someone has been putting narcotics in Fay's Geritol.

    I think Fay still has "hurt feelings" about more-or-less being dumped as Commissioner himself back in 1992. I cannot see him saying anything positive about the job. Fay = Grumpy Old Man.

    Anyhow... this whole article is Speculation (with a capital "S"). Two people who claim to know the president say the can "envision" him going back to MLB. Reminds me of the Nat'l Enquirer's fav phrase to justify their crap... "inside sources have said".
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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    George could search for WMDs in ballparks all across the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smith288
    Yea...because Bush will mandate the Bible on all the players and force all players pay a fine for having kids out of wedlock?
    No, because everything he's managed - from the oil companies to the Rangers to this country - has gone downhill under his leadership.

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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    Lets stay on topic and not make this into a political thread.

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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool
    George could search for WMDs in ballparks all across the country.

    Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi, Gary Sheffield, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa: all evildoers.

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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    All Bush was at the Rangers was a face for the ownership. To attribute the Rangers constant failure to accompish anything to Bush only shows the futility to your argument (and like anyone knew Sosa was going to turn out the way he was...Pena is similiar to Sosa during Sosa's early days but there are many who want to trade Pena...)

    The country "going downhill" is merely political sniping as there are as many on the other side of the fence who would disagree.

    Bush's love for baseball is well known and he has shown the concern to keep it as close to its roots as possible with his vote NO for the wildcard is evidence.

    We can all agree the wildcard has been positive in keeping the races interesting, Bush's intention was not to avoid that success.

    Im sure he would rethink that vote if he knew then what he knows now.

    I think Bush might suprise a few if he led the commissioners office. Even those who opposed his political affiliations might like him as a baseball man.

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    I don't want to see another "owner" become commish.

    Baseball needs to hire someone outside the "family" if they want to make things right.
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    He probably wouldn't be the worst and wouldn't be the best commish.

    In my opinion, the best commissioner would be someone with a strong background in labor relations and/or antitrust, with at least a smidge of marketing sense.

    See Stern, David and Tagliabue, Paul.
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