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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili
    He probably wouldn't be the worst and wouldn't be the best commish.

    In my opinion, the best commissioner would be someone with a strong background in labor relations and/or antitrust, with at least a smidge of marketing sense.

    See Stern, David and Tagliabue, Paul.
    Speaking of Marketing Accumen do you all know that Fay Vincent was the president of the studio that released Isthar?

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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    If this were to happen (just thinking outloud)...

    * I'd bet that Halliburton would become the vendor of all food concessions in MLB stadiums.

    * I'd bet that cocaine and DUIs will no longer be grounds for suspension in MLB.

    * I'd bet that MLB would build an underground bunker for the commissioner's 2nd in charge.

    * I'd bet that Dan Rather will run a fictitious story based on information from Fay Vincent on 60 Minutes II... in an attempt to get the new commish out of office.

    * I'd bet that Fay Vincent's wife would claim that the new commish's wife has never had a real job (like her of course). Huh? What's a school teacher?

    Small market fan... always hoping, but never expecting.

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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    Quote Originally Posted by StillFunkyB
    I don't want to see another "owner" become commish.

    Baseball needs to hire someone outside the "family" if they want to make things right.
    Good luck, Fay was ousted for exactly that reason, the rules were then changed shifting the power back to the owners.

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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds4Life
    Lets stay on topic and not make this into a political thread.
    That's going to be rather difficult with the topic of the thread being George Bush...

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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    Small-market teams everywhere should cringe at the thought of a billionaire oil tycoon and former top politician taking the reins of the sport. BAD idea...

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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis
    That's going to be rather difficult with the topic of the thread being George Bush...

    No, it shouldn't be difficult at all and if you find it to be, create a similar topic in the non-bb side and discuss politics there.
    Last edited by paintmered; 04-18-2005 at 11:45 AM.
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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis
    Small-market teams everywhere should cringe at the thought of a billionaire oil tycoon and former top politician taking the reins of the sport. BAD idea...
    I dont agree. On the baseball side of things, I believe fairness among all teams is what everyone wants. I consider myself a pureist and would love to see a more socialist type of system set up INSIDE baseball.

    Now if I said that about our own economy I would put a .44 to my head.

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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    Quote Originally Posted by smith288
    All Bush was at the Rangers was a face for the ownership. To attribute the Rangers constant failure to accompish anything to Bush only shows the futility to your argument (and like anyone knew Sosa was going to turn out the way he was...Pena is similiar to Sosa during Sosa's early days but there are many who want to trade Pena...)
    If all he was for the Rangers was a face, then how can you say he would make a good manager of all 30 MLB teams? He wasn't even trusted enough for one, so how is 30 going to be better?

    The country "going downhill" is merely political sniping as there are as many on the other side of the fence who would disagree.
    There are many people that would disagree, but you can't dispute the fact that the economy has gone downhill, interest rates have gone up, unemployment has gone up, oil prices have gone up (even before 9/11) and Bush has done a horrible job communicating with other nations/countries.

    As a baseball commissioner, if revenue was down across the board, attendance was down, costs of attendance/concessions were skyrocketing, a team or two was in danger of going out of business and you were pissing off union leaders and/or fellow owners, I would imagine you'd be considered a poor comissioner.

    THAT'S why he would be a poor commissioner, not because I'm a liberal with blind disdain for Bush.

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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    I think you could probably find a much worse candidate for the job than W. I think the league could use a commish who was seen in more of an ombudsman role. W could pull it off. George Mitchell would also be a good call, IMHO. I also wonder if the owners would ever consider a former player.

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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    THAT'S why he would be a poor commissioner, not because I'm a liberal with blind disdain for Bush.
    Your posts are never taken objectively if its about Bush. I dont even know why you bother...your game is so transparent that even something as simple as Bush going into roller derby you would accuse him of alterior motives... geez.

    Im a supporter of Bush but i dont have a blind following of him either (illegal aliens being a major sticking point). I think I can view this story (even if untrue) with a slight bit of objectivity.

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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    I don't like his politics one bit, but I think he'd be a fine commissioner. The guy seems to have a genuine love of sports.

    I think his optimal post-Presidential job would be head of the USOC.
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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    Thanks for joining in on the conversation...glad I could find someone who loathes the guy but can see his passion for the game.

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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    Quote Originally Posted by smith288
    Your posts are never taken objectively if its about Bush. I dont even know why you bother...your game is so transparent that even something as simple as Bush going into roller derby you would accuse him of alterior motives... geez.

    Im a supporter of Bush but i dont have a blind following of him either (illegal aliens being a major sticking point). I think I can view this story (even if untrue) with a slight bit of objectivity.
    I can't control how people perceive what I post. And frankly, I don't care. I'm putting in my two cents on a conversation which I have an opinion about.

    I've made my case with reasons and comparisons. You've made your case with "he loves the game" and "he has a passion for baseball." I don't see those as the primary characteristics that make a good commissioner.

    I think leadership skills and marketing/economic skill play a huge role. I don't see those in Bush. It's not about ulterior motives.

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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    Quote Originally Posted by johngalt
    There are many people that would disagree, but you can't dispute the fact that the economy has gone downhill, interest rates have gone up, unemployment has gone up, oil prices have gone up (even before 9/11) and Bush has done a horrible job communicating with other nations/countries.

    Save it for the non-bb side. I already warned everyone in here once.


    Your posts are never taken objectively if its about Bush. I dont even know why you bother...your game is so transparent that even something as simple as Bush going into roller derby you would accuse him of alterior motives... geez.

    This is also unacceptable.
    Last edited by paintmered; 04-18-2005 at 01:04 PM.
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    Re: President Bush may make pitch for commish job

    Quote Originally Posted by paintmered
    Save it for the non-bb side. I already warned everyone in here once.
    I'm debating his merits as a baseball commissioner, not his merits as a President. His previous experience in a management/leadership capacity are relevant.


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