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    Re: LPtP business discussion thread

    So GIK, this search discussion has be confused...

    What are we running out of? Network usage or CPU usage?

    I would think a search is CPU (and IO) intensive. I would think it is not network intensive.

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    Re: LPtP business discussion thread

    I see your point, Roy.

    I believe network usage is our problem, but I will connect with our host for clarification.

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    Re: LPtP business discussion thread

    Just thought about this and wondered...

    When someone subscribes to a thread and gets an email telling them there has been a reply to the thread...does sending that email use bandwidth or is that just something built in that does its own little thing? (I have no idea what technical terms to use in case you can't tell) :

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    Re: LPtP business discussion thread

    I'm looking at the stats and this month has 100% more 404's than the next busy month (last July) meanwhile I note 6% of the sites usage is coming from an IT site in Australia.

    The site itself is using as much as it did in June of 2004 but has been down way more (denial of service 16 K in June and 207 K now)
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    Month 		Daily Avg 			Monthly Totals 
    
    
    
    		Hits 	Files 	Pages 	Visits 	Sites 	KBytes 	Visits 	Pages 	Files 	Hits 
     
    Apr 2005 	416321 	181032 	6892 	2053 	14558 	29570345 39019 	130951 	3439626 7910101 
    Mar 2005 	264840 	138575 	5239 	1966 	16155 	24223268 41295 	110029 	2910077 5561642 
    Dec 2004 	263186 	94373 	4546 	1650 	15378 	27559442 44554 	122749 	2548079 7106033 
    Nov 2004 	198823 	72125 	3681 	1266 	12168 	21221374 37998 	110457 	2163757 5964711 
    Oct 2004 	191836 	66800 	3094 	1169 	12271 	19927735 36241 	95920 	2070828 5946924 
    Sep 2004 	232729 	80072 	4090 	1233 	12101 	22186412 37007 	122708 	2402174 6981885 
    Aug 2004 	313233 	107511 	4696 	1649 	17151 	31635022 51120 	145592 	3332859 9710239 
    Jul 2004 	382286 	120377 	4570 	1756 	19026 	36878490 54458 	141696 	3731706 11850890 
    Jun 2004 	485676 	146301 	4848 	1768 	17406 	42375443 53052 	145462 	4389038 14570295 
    May 2004 	346535 	117068 	4688 	1613 	15760 	35305654 50008 	145350 	3629118 10742586

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    Re: LPtP business discussion thread

    WOY, I did a little more research and it appears that we were using "whois" wrong, it only works if you put in the the domain name, not the IP address. Anyhow, I then did a google search looking for web pages with the IP address 133.9.238.74 in it. It showed up in the usages stats for hundreds of unrelated websites so I believe it must be some sort of BOT.

    That IP address has consumed 6.08% of RZ's resources this month.

    Perhaps specifically banning it would be a good idea.

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    Re: LPtP business discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    I'm looking at the stats and this month has 100% more 404's than the next busy month (last July) meanwhile I note 6% of the sites usage is coming from an IT site in Australia.

    The site itself is using as much as it did in June of 2004 but has been down way more (denial of service 16 K in June and 207 K now)
    Code:
    Month 		Daily Avg 			Monthly Totals 
    
    
    
    		Hits 	Files 	Pages 	Visits 	Sites 	KBytes 	Visits 	Pages 	Files 	Hits 
     
    Apr 2005 	416321 	181032 	6892 	2053 	14558 	29570345 39019 	130951 	3439626 7910101 
    Mar 2005 	264840 	138575 	5239 	1966 	16155 	24223268 41295 	110029 	2910077 5561642 
    Dec 2004 	263186 	94373 	4546 	1650 	15378 	27559442 44554 	122749 	2548079 7106033 
    Nov 2004 	198823 	72125 	3681 	1266 	12168 	21221374 37998 	110457 	2163757 5964711 
    Oct 2004 	191836 	66800 	3094 	1169 	12271 	19927735 36241 	95920 	2070828 5946924 
    Sep 2004 	232729 	80072 	4090 	1233 	12101 	22186412 37007 	122708 	2402174 6981885 
    Aug 2004 	313233 	107511 	4696 	1649 	17151 	31635022 51120 	145592 	3332859 9710239 
    Jul 2004 	382286 	120377 	4570 	1756 	19026 	36878490 54458 	141696 	3731706 11850890 
    Jun 2004 	485676 	146301 	4848 	1768 	17406 	42375443 53052 	145462 	4389038 14570295 
    May 2004 	346535 	117068 	4688 	1613 	15760 	35305654 50008 	145350 	3629118 10742586

    Hey, I have no knowledge on all of this but...

    I recall that poster 'Nugget' is from Australia. See post #6 in the 'Gammons: Keep the OF's, trade Casey' thread where he mentions that.

    A clue maybe?

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    Re: LPtP business discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Borkowski
    Hey, I have no knowledge on all of this but...

    I recall that poster 'Nugget' is from Australia. See post #6 in the 'Gammons: Keep the OF's, trade Casey' thread where he mentions that.

    A clue maybe?
    Hi Bob, WOY and I were wrong about the Australia thing. Nugget's not the problem.

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    Re: LPtP business discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro
    WOY, I did a little more research and it appears that we were using "whois" wrong, it only works if you put in the the domain name, not the IP address. Anyhow, I then did a google search looking for web pages with the IP address 133.9.238.74 in it. It showed up in the usages stats for hundreds of unrelated websites so I believe it must be some sort of BOT.

    That IP address has consumed 6.08% of RZ's resources this month.

    Perhaps specifically banning it would be a good idea.
    From IP Routing tool at http://www.dnsstuff.com/ for 133.9.238.74

    Code:
    WHOIS results for 133.9.238.74
    Generated by www.DNSstuff.com
    Location: Japan [City: Chiyoda-Ku, Tokyo]
    
    Looking up 133.9.238.74 at whois.radb.net.
    
    NOTE: More information appears to be available at AS17956.
    
    Using 0 day old cached answer (or, you can get fresh results).
    Hiding E-mail address (you can get results with the E-mail address).
    
    route:              133.9.0.0/16
    descr:              Waseda University
    origin:             AS17956
    notify:             ***@noc.kddnet.ad.jp
    mnt-by:             MAINT-AS2516
    changed:            ***@noc.kddnet.ad.jp 20021015
    source:             RADB
    
    route:         133.9.0.0/16
    descr:         Waseda University
    origin:        AS17956
    remarks:       * PROXY *
    notify:        ***@noc.kddnet.ad.jp
    mnt-by:        MAINT-AS2907
    changed:       **@sinet.ad.jp 20031226
    source:        SINET

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    Re: LPtP business discussion thread

    There are six domains that have been hitting RZ this month that have been eating up 12.34% of the sites resources. I'm going to check the other months for them before I send them to you Gik.

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    Re: LPtP business discussion thread

    The other five are hubs for providers in the tri state area, Ft Mitchell, 2 in Cincinnati, Dayton and Columbus.

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    Re: LPtP business discussion thread

    I'll help in any way needed, good luck guys
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    Re: LPtP business discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    The other five are hubs for providers in the tri state area, Ft Mitchell, 2 in Cincinnati, Dayton and Columbus.
    Could Ft Mitchell be insightbb.com (Northern Ky cable co high speed)?

    The Cincinnati ones possibly Fuse/Zoomtown and Roadrunner?

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    Re: LPtP business discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamDunn
    Could Ft Mitchell be insightbb.com (Northern Ky cable co high speed)?

    The Cincinnati ones possibly Fuse/Zoomtown and Roadrunner?
    Likely. I don't think those are the problem though, as they probably service a large number of RZ's users.

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    Re: LPtP business discussion thread

    Can we still post pictures here if we use our own hosting site and the IMG tags for the pictures and not the attachment thing?

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    Re: LPtP business discussion thread

    After looking at the resource logs with WOY I have the following thoughts/observations.

    1. RZ is consuming roughly 10% more resources per day than the previous highest month which was June 2004.

    2. 6.08% of the resource usage come from the IP Address 133.9.238.74 which is coming from Japan. A google search indicated that this IP address shows up in the usage logs of hundreds of other web sites. I believe it it a BOT. This IP address should be banned.

    3. In June 2004 there were 16,379 error code 404's which indicate the server is too busy or could not be found. This month there have been 206,965 404's already. This to me indicates that the server load is reaching it's limit. As RZ shares server with many other sites, it is possible that the incremental growth of other sites on server coupled with the growth in usage by RZ is causing server overload. When we reached our high point last June it is possible that it was not as noticiable due to underutilization by other sites hosted on same server.

    4. The user logs do not provide information about usage of specific forums or threads so it is not possible to to see from the usage logs what areas within RZ are using the most bandwidth. I think it is safe to say the "last thread" does use a bit of bandwidth as the there have been 70,000 + posts made in 1-12. As the issue is bandwidth I suggest that the "last thread" community try to police itself and do its' best not overtax Redszone, lest we be asked to stop completely.

    5. The average KB per site Hit last June was 2.908. This April it has been 3.73. I don't know if that has to do more with the widespread usage of Avatars or with posting attached pictures, but it is significant. I think that usage of Avatars and attached pictures should be suspended.

    6. There is the possibility that the continued use of the attached image of Cbus' giant head may be a causing the site overload.
    Last edited by pedro; 04-19-2005 at 04:54 PM.


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