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    4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson]

    Looks to be another tough one for the boys in Red tonight. Pittsburgh starter Oliver Perez has was 4-0 against the Reds with a 1.59 ERA and seemingly double digit strikeouts each time he faced them last year. This year he is off to a less than stellar 0-2 start with an ERA in the 9's. His control seems to be off as he only has 16 Ks and 12 BBs thru 15 IPs.

    For the Reds, the ever reliable Paul Wilson gets the start. He's 3-1 lifetime against the Bucs with a respectable 3.26 ERA. He's 0-1 with an era of 6.35 this year in 3 starts.

    The Reds were 9-10 last season against the Pirates, a team they should own if they want to compete for the division title.


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    Ryan Freel, LF
    D'Angelo Jimenez, 2B
    Joe Randa, 3B
    Adam Dunn, 1B
    Wily Mo Pena, CF
    Austin Kearns, RF
    Rich Aurilia, SS
    Jason LaRue, C
    Paul Wilson, P

    Pirates
    Matt Lawton, RF
    Jack Wilson, SS
    Tike Redman, CF
    Jason Bay, LF
    Daryle Ward, 1B
    Bobby Hill, 3B
    Rob Mackowiak, 2B
    Humberto Cota, C
    Oliver Perez, P
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    Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson]

    It's all about tim--time--timing

    We catch the Buccos getting beat up on and with their ace pitching after a rough start, both the team and Perez are due for a good game. But he's got to beat Wilson....
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    Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson]

    My lineup
    Freel - has hit well off of Perez
    Randa
    Casey - he is 11-22 off of Perez
    Kearns
    Dunn - .967 OPS against Perez
    Pena
    Aurilia
    larue

    Jr has a .000 OPS as he is 0-10 against Perez.
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    Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson]

    Perez is going to get smoked tonight.
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    Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson]

    Dunn needs to be moved up in the lineup.

    Twice Randa got out the third out the other night with men on base and the next inning Dunn led off with HR's. Now I know that they're going to picth dunn different with men on base, but still.

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    Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson]

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro
    Dunn needs to be moved up in the lineup.

    Twice Randa got out the third out the other night with men on base and the next inning Dunn led off with HR's. Now I know that they're going to picth dunn different with men on base, but still.
    I agree, the Randa hitting 4th experiment is over. Either make it Dunn, or just as well to make it the RFer, be it Kearns or Pena. Either way, Randa back to 6th. Less pressure, more production.

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    Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson]

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro
    Dunn needs to be moved up in the lineup.

    Twice Randa got out the third out the other night with men on base and the next inning Dunn led off with HR's. Now I know that they're going to picth dunn different with men on base, but still.
    I agree.

    I would bat Dunn anywhere from second to fourth. Preferably 2nd to get him more atbats.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson]

    I hate it when the Reds face struggling teams. That's all I'll say on the matter.

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    Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson]

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro
    Dunn needs to be moved up in the lineup.
    Againt RH pitching. Like it or not he still struggles against lefties.
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    Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson]

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    I hate it when the Reds face struggling teams. That's all I'll say on the matter.
    That's because the quality Reds pitching usually gets them out of their slump.
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    Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson]

    This would be my lineup tonight:

    Freel 2B
    Griffey CF
    Dunn 1B
    Pena LF
    Kearns RF
    Randa 3B
    Lopez SS
    LaRue C
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    Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo Cabesa
    Againt RH pitching. Like it or not he still struggles against lefties.
    I don't know. he's not off to a good start against them this year (0 for 10) but his career splits are pretty damn good.

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                  G    AB 	R 	H 	2B 	3B 	HR 	RBI 	BB 	K 	SB 	CS 	AVG 	OBP 	SLG 	OPS 	 
     vs. Left   339   549 	74 	133 	27 	0 	36 	87 	88 	192 	9 	6 	.242 	.359 	.488 	.847 	 
     vs. Right  508   1219 	247 	307 	69 	5 	86 	194 	265 	387 	28 	8 	.252 	.391 	.528 	.919

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    Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson]

    Quote Originally Posted by Puffy
    This would be my lineup tonight:

    Freel 2B
    Griffey CF
    Dunn 1B
    Pena LF
    Kearns RF
    Randa 3B
    Lopez SS
    LaRue C
    Casey is batting .500 in his career against Perez....I say give him the day off tomorrow

    Maybe sit Griffey

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    Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson]

    Quote Originally Posted by Puffy
    This would be my lineup tonight:

    Freel 2B
    Griffey CF
    Dunn 1B
    Pena LF
    Kearns RF
    Randa 3B
    Lopez SS
    LaRue C
    I would say Jrs 0-10 againt Perez where Casey is 11-22 will move Jr to the bench. Jr needs more days off, the Reds are just asking for trouble by running him out there 5-6 days a week.
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    Re: 4-20 vs Pirates [Perez vs Wilson]

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro
    I don't know. he's not off to a good start against them this year (0 for 10) but his career splits are pretty damn good.
    Last year it was 1.015 to .829. An almost 200 point diff in OPS is very significant. In the last year we have seen him really improve against RH pitching. I think it will come in time against LH pitching, we just haven't seen it yet.
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