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    Re: Lindner fleecing California with Arnold's help?

    I know some here think all corporations are evil.
    Who would be those here?

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    Re: Lindner fleecing California with Arnold's help?

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    Who would be those here?
    I don't want the my reader to insinuate, RBA. Sorry if that is how you took that statement. I'd bet that Heller thinks that way. But he makes me insinuate. He didn't get me to believe that anything wrong has taken place though in CA w/ Carl Lindner.

    I wonder how Heller felt about pulling that feeding tube, since morals are a big thing to him? I should ask him. I do not expect others to answer for Douglas. Maybe a quick Goggle search will tell me?
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    Re: Lindner fleecing California with Arnold's help?

    I ain't here to discuss the pulling the feeding tube. To me, that was the moral thing to do. But I think that's been pretty much discussed in the other thread.

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    Re: Lindner fleecing California with Arnold's help?

    Lindner pays people that are in power. Nothing new here.
    Lindner, thought a conservative by temperament (he was a member of the anti-porn group largely responsible for Cincinnati's Mapplethorpe dustup), give money to whoever in in power. Despite his relationship with Dole, he was President Clinton's largest single contributor as of July 1994. But shortly after Republicans took the House in November 1994, Lindner sent a check for $55,000 to Speaker Newt Gingrich's GOPAC.
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    Re: Lindner fleecing California with Arnold's help?

    Muddy the water, make something that seemed clearcut murky.

    Republicans don't want to stay clean, they just want to get the other guy dirty too.
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    And for the record I agree with Ochre. Lindner has never been one of those guys that gives 99% of the time to one side or the other. He wants to be in favor with whoever's in charge.
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    Re: Lindner fleecing California with Arnold's help?

    It's what's legal that screams for change. This dirty little episode is the perfect example of what's wrong with American capitalism in the 21st Century. Thousands of productive businesses are being drained by healthcare and worker's comp costs that go mostly to well-connected corporations.

    America is entering its Breznev-era, complete with an Mideast invasion.
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    Re: Lindner fleecing California with Arnold's help?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo
    It's what's legal that screams for change. This dirty little episode is the perfect example of what's wrong with American capitalism in the 21st Century. Thousands of productive businesses are being drained by healthcare and worker's comp costs that go mostly to well-connected corporations.

    America is entering its Breznev-era, complete with an Mideast invasion.
    Kind of reminds me (American capitalism) of Chinese people sleeping in Lincoln's bedroom for a small fee. I also wonder how many productive businesses/doctors get drained by outrageous lawsuits and people who milk the system with their "so-called injuries". Do we include attorney donations to their political favs in this argument? Do we?

    I thought America was entering the next Vietnam? Now it is a Breznev-Afghan thing?

    America's way of doing things may not be perfect. It may be far from perfect. However, it is still one of the best around. Lasted a lot longer than other ways of doing things (see USSR, etc). There are a lot of things in this country that are far from perfect (O.J. trial anyone?). But it is a great country regardless. I shake my head when citizens of this country complain. They need to live elsewhere and see if things are that bad here. Of course our neighbors up north do not make it too hard to setup shop there. Make sure there are no felonies on the good ol' record, say some negative things about a certain country and you'll be speaking fluent French before you know it.

    I still wonder how many workman's comp. cases are filed in the state of CA. Is it large compared to other states (per capita)?
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    Kind of reminds me (American capitalism) of Chinese people sleeping in Lincoln's bedroom for a small fee. I also wonder how many productive businesses/doctors get drained by outrageous lawsuits and people who milk the system with their "so-called injuries". Do we include attorney donations to their political favs in this argument? Do we?
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    Of course our neighbors up north do not make it too hard to setup shop there. Make sure there are no felonies on the good ol' record, say some negative things about a certain country and you'll be speaking fluent French before you know it.
    Wow. Lay off the talk radio man.
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    Re: Lindner fleecing California with Arnold's help?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfaithful
    Wow. Lay off the talk radio man.
    Talk radio? Answer this...

    Did Chinese sleep in Lincoln's bedroom for a fee? Did anybody get in trouble for that? Is that another fine example of the American capitalism referenced by Rojo?

    Do attornies make political donations like Mr. Lindner? Who do they donate to and why? Are frivilous lawsuits a problem like what is perceived to be a problem in CA w/ workman's comp.?

    Is there a history of Americans who think this country is not run the right way moving north? Even those who have committed a felony crime by dodging their military service?
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    Even those who have committed a felony crime by dodging their military service?\
    Everyone who went to Canada to avoid Vietnam was pardoned. You know that.

    I've never heard anything about the Lincoln bedroom from credible sources. It's generally the lunatic fringe on the right that seems to bring it up. Just like it's the lunatic fringe on the right that manages to bring every ... single ... conversation around to Clinton.

    Do attornies make political donations like Mr. Lindner? Who do they donate to and why? Are frivilous lawsuits a problem like what is perceived to be a problem in CA w/ workman's comp.?
    I imagine lawyers donate to both parties pretty equally, just like most people.
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    Re: Lindner fleecing California with Arnold's help?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966
    Talk radio? Answer this...

    Did Chinese sleep in Lincoln's bedroom for a fee? Did anybody get in trouble for that? Is that another fine example of the American capitalism referenced by Rojo?

    Do attornies make political donations like Mr. Lindner? Who do they donate to and why? Are frivilous lawsuits a problem like what is perceived to be a problem in CA w/ workman's comp.?

    Is there a history of Americans who think this country is not run the right way moving north? Even those who have committed a felony crime by dodging their military service?
    WOW!!! Talk about going on a tangent. Can we just keep the topic on the Worker's Comp situation in CA? I really would like to hear from those in CA - are you worried about this? And thanks to REDREAD and 919191 for some personal insights.
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    Re: Lindner fleecing California with Arnold's help?

    I shake my head when citizens of this country complain. They need to live elsewhere and see if things are that bad here. Of course our neighbors up north do not make it too hard to setup shop there.
    Love it or leave it, hey Archie.
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    Re: Lindner fleecing California with Arnold's help?

    I shake my head when citizens of this country complain. They need to live elsewhere and see if things are that bad here.
    Like when people complain about gas prices being too high?
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    Re: Lindner fleecing California with Arnold's help?

    You've got to give the Rushcrowd and the Big Oil crowd credit, they are becoming really expert at refusing to address the issues. Critisize the Banana Man for buying political favors, they bring up removiing Terri Schivo's feeding tube. Complain about Tom Delay, they bring up the Lincoln Bedroom. Criticize the war in Iraq, they bring up Bosnia.


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