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    Re: Chris Reitsma

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenlord
    except Harang doesn't project as middle relief and never has.
    Ok, its like trading Wagner for two prospects. Also, I don't agree that Chris 'projected" as a long man. He was closing when he was given away, and he was doing well at it.

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    Re: Chris Reitsma

    DanO's made one good move since he's been here; don't take that away from him!

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    Re: Chris Reitsma

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutaman
    Ok, its like trading Wagner for two prospects. Also, I don't agree that Chris 'projected" as a long man. He was closing when he was given away, and he was doing well at it.
    apperetnly what you and i consider to be good at closing are two different things. Reitsma was 2004 Danny Graves as a closer. Wagner doesn't project as a middle reliever either. he projects closer. actually, the better comparison for Reitsma is Dave Veres. IMO, if Reits was a closer for a full season, he'd put up Veres-like numbers.
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    Re: Chris Reitsma

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenlord
    apperetnly what you and i consider to be good at closing are two different things. Reitsma was 2004 Danny Graves as a closer. Wagner doesn't project as a middle reliever either. he projects closer. actually, the better comparison for Reitsma is Dave Veres. IMO, if Reits was a closer for a full season, he'd put up Veres-like numbers.
    Speculation of course is nice because you can't prove it or disprove it. Reitsma was young with a great arm and a good fastball. In an organization with such in short supply you don't give somebody like that away.

    Nobody's going to defend Graves but he did have 41 saves last year with an ERA under 4.00. For a team with an overall ERA of 5.60 I'd take those numbers in a heartbeat. The problem is we don't have anybody resembling a closer now (good or otherwise)because Graves can't duplicate his 2004 numbers and because we gave Reitsma away.

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    Wagner and Coffey both project as a closer. Bubba Nelson's also showing very well as a closer.
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    Wagner and Coffey both project as a closer. Bubba Nelson's also showing very well as a closer.
    Bubba Nelson has mediocre stats in AA ball. He was 1-10 with an ERA over 7.00
    in AAA last year. Please.

    You can project all you want but if by some miracle we go into the 9th inning tomorrow night with a one run lead, who are you going to send out there to pitch?

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    Re: Chris Reitsma

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenlord
    Bubba's actually doing quite well in the closer role in Chattanooga right now. especially since he's no longer pitching to contact:

    3.57 ERA, 17.2 IP, 17 H, 1 HR, 5 BB, 21 K
    and to answer your question, Mercker or Wagner. Coffey is still at least one year off from deserving the ML roster. you don't promote a Rookie-baller guy to the majors because he projects to be an ace.
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    Re: Chris Reitsma

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutaman
    Bubba Nelson has mediocre stats in AA ball. He was 1-10 with an ERA over 7.00
    in AAA last year. Please.

    You can project all you want but if by some miracle we go into the 9th inning tomorrow night with a one run lead, who are you going to send out there to pitch?
    That was last years stats starting with a bad knee.

    Now he is in the Bullpen where he has appeared very comfortable. I think he has a better upside than Wagner though whether he puts it together is wait and see right now.


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