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    Reds vs Mets 5/18/05

    Cincinnati
    Ryan Freel rf .330
    Felipe Lopez ss .291
    Sean Casey 1b .273
    Ken Griffey Jr. cf .268
    Adam Dunn lf .256
    Joe Randa 3b .289
    D'Angelo Jimenez 2b .216
    Jason LaRue c .189
    Eric Milton p .071


    NY Mets

    Jose Reyes ss .250
    Miguel Cairo 1b .273
    Mike Cameron cf .410
    Mike Piazza c .219
    Cliff Floyd lf .310
    Chris Woodward rf .278
    David Wright 3b .268
    Kaz Matsui 2b .237
    Tom Glavine p .167


    Eric Milton 7.21
    Tom Glavine 5.77
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    Re: Reds vs Mets 5/18/05

    Jimenez continues to hold 2B hostage. Bleech.
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    It's OK to swing at the first pitch and ground out to 2B every other at bat. But if you look at strike three to end the game, you will be punished.

    I had major problems with Austin Kearns letting strike three go by without even giving himself a chance. I don't think that means you give your team less of a chance to win the next game. And I have just as much of a problem with Casey trying to pull outside corner pitches all the time and grounding into double plays at an incredible rate.

    Dave Miley doesn't care much for Austin Kearns. Sean Casey gets a free pass and a hallowed spot in the lineup.
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    if he's going to sit someone, could he please sit Casey? i mean really, what's wrong with:

    LF Freel
    SS Lopez
    1B Dunn
    CF Griffey
    RF Kearns
    3B Randa
    2B Jimenez
    C LaRue
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    Re: Reds vs Mets 5/18/05

    Sean Casey

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    2005 38 150 13 41 10 0 1 16 11 15 0 0 .273 .319 .360 .679
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    Re: Reds vs Mets 5/18/05

    So what are you saying, Puffy? That somehow those numbers don't translate into a hitter you should be playing everyday in the 3 spot? Check his BA with runners in scoring position...
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    Re: Reds vs Mets 5/18/05

    No Kearns today eh?

    Larue? .189 BA?

    Milton 7.21 ERA?

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    Re: Reds vs Mets 5/18/05

    The way those guys are going, you're pretty much looking at choosing only among bad options.
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    I think it's clear that when Wily Mo returns, he and Kearns are going to really languish trying to get their share of ABs, as when Freel isn't playing 2B (which he should be the majority of the time), he's obviously going to be in RF. Miley is loathe to ever sit Casey, much less move him from the #3 hole (despite the nice offensive game we just had without him), so he'll never sit to accommodate the OF glut. Likewise, apparently Randa is immune from Freel or DJ occasionally taking his spot at 3B, which means that when DJ/Freel are both in the lineup... Kearns and WMP will both be sitting, and that they will almost *never* be on the field together (barring an injury, which is the last thing we need). So, the 2 guys we need to develop more (and who need more developmental reps) than anyone on the roster, will be playing a musical chairs game of odd-man-out and PH specialist.

    Just imagine if Aurilia had not gone down, and DJ had not struggled early: We likely never witness Lopez's evolution, and Freel is forced to RF on a near everyday basis, blocking both Kearns and WMP. In other words, the 3 primary young positional prospects to the future of this oprganization (along with Dunn, and eventually EdE), would likely never see more than sporadic time on the field this year, if not for chance and injury. Hard to imagine for a team desperately in need of developing youth, rather than stop-gap veterans.

    That criticism doesn't even touch on the woeful lineup construct, which is almost as counterproductive as the utilization of our personnel is. What a mess.
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    Re: Reds vs Mets 5/18/05

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Leader
    So what are you saying, Puffy? That somehow those numbers don't translate into a hitter you should be playing everyday in the 3 spot? Check his BA with runners in scoring position...
    I would never say such a thing. I would also never say that when you take Casey's 12 DP's into account that his production grows even smaller, or that everyone one of his starts has been in the 3 spot.
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    Re: Reds vs Mets 5/18/05

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy
    Just imagine if Aurilia had not gone down, and DJ had not struggled early: We likely never witness Lopez's evolution, and Freel is forced to RF on a near everyday basis, blocking both Kearns and WMP. In other words, the 3 primary young positional prospects to the future of this oprganization (along with Dunn, and eventually EdE), would likely never see more than sporadic time on the field this year, if not for chance and injury. Har dto imagine for a team desperately in need of developing youth, rather than stop-gap veterans.

    That criticism doesn't even touch on the woeful lineup construct, which is almost as counterproductive as the utilization of our personnel is. What a mess.
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    1-0 Mets. Oh, wait the game hasn't started yet.

    Sorry.
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    Re: Reds vs Mets 5/18/05

    Two lefty pitchers in a row. Three consecutive lefty hitters in the middle of the order. Both days. How creative.

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    Re: Reds vs Mets 5/18/05

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenlord
    if he's going to sit someone, could he please sit Casey? i mean really, what's wrong with:

    LF Freel
    SS Lopez
    1B Dunn
    CF Griffey
    RF Kearns
    3B Randa
    2B Jimenez
    C LaRue
    ?
    Exactly. Looks like the lineup which just put up a 12 spot against the Phillies 4 days ago, except Dunn was of course relegated to the #5 spot in favor of Randa that day (uggh). Apparently any veteran, experienced bat, even one with a Juan Castroesque OPS (.679) like Sean Casey, is preferable in the #3 spot to one of the league's most potent On Base and Slugging machines. There is a reason that Adam Dunn has been walked in 22 of his 66 Plate Appearances with Runners on Base. Miley has found a way to both undermine Dunn's OBP translating into runs, and to negate his ability to drive runners in with his EBH Power. It's hard to miss the mark that badly.

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    Re: Reds vs Mets 5/18/05

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy
    That criticism doesn't even touch on the woeful lineup construct, which is almost as counterproductive as the utilization of our personnel is. What a mess.
    If you remember, I was a fairly outspoken critic of Bob Boone's style. But I always said that he knew what he was doing. There were good reasons for his decisions...he just couldn't stop himself from making decisions all throughout the game and constantly changing his mind.

    But Dave Miley's performance this season is horrific. I'm not sure he knows what he's doing. He certainly doesn't know which direction this ballclub is going. He's not following any plan whatsoever. And he's shown not only a preferance for veterans over developing talent, but what's worse, a preferance for poor baseball players who happened to have been good at one point in their careers.

    I'm about to pop a vein in my forehead just thinking about the job he's done this year.
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