The last thing I want is DePodesta dealing with O'Brien. Talk about being overmatched......Originally Posted by Reds Fanatic
The last thing I want is DePodesta dealing with O'Brien. Talk about being overmatched......Originally Posted by Reds Fanatic
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Milton might have a prayer in San Diego. Going there is about like going to pitch in the Astrodome from a pitcher's perspective. I'd pay half of the contract just to loosen the noose around my neck if I'm OB.Originally Posted by timmario66
"Rounding 3rd and heading for home, good night everybody"
Funny thing is, Dodgers' fans are about as enamored with their GM as we are with ours.Originally Posted by Puffy
"Rounding 3rd and heading for home, good night everybody"
If we are trading for the future we shouldnt trade away OUR future.Originally Posted by Jesus Freak
*I would rather have Texeria than Dunn though, but maybe thats just me
:freel: Harold Reynolds's All-Star Snub
I agree with that. That is why I think it should take those guys. Why would LA do that? Because they have legit playoff hopes and Randa and Harang fill their two biggest holes with two above average ML starters, one of which will slot very nicely behind Brad Penny long term for them.Originally Posted by rdiersin
Why would I as a Red trade Harang? Only because his value is as high as it has ever been right now and because I need more help than just Harang. That and because I am asking for a minimum of two high quality prospects to deal him, not just a couple of schleps.
They wanna trade? really..no problemOriginally Posted by traderumor
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I saw this from a BP article by Joe Sheehan talking about which teams may be sellers, and what they have to sell (sorry if it was posted elsewhere):
My question is:Reds: Someone should let the Reds know they had a series in Boston this week. I'm not usually one for judging effort by watching on television, but if you were going to argue that a team had given up, those three games were pretty good evidence for the prosecution. Maybe the regular chairs go next.
What's odd is that for such a bad team, the Reds have some players to trade. They've destroyed Austin Kearns' value in favor of Ryan Freel--who admittedly has been very good the last two years--so there's an opportunity for a team to steal a pretty good right fielder for the stretch drive. Keep in mind that the Reds have had a glut of outfielders/first baseman for a while now, and they haven't been able to make a deal in that time. Finally, Joe Randa has no business finishing the year in Cincinnati, and he could improve a number of third-base situations around the league. His fan-favorite status may impair Dan O'Brien's judgment, however
Joe Randa is a fan favorite? Why?
I think the Dodgers' fans have just as legit reasons to complain. From the results perspective, he has done as little to instill confidence in the fan base than O'Brien has. He may have better skills and a better plan overall, but the results are mixed, at best, so far.Originally Posted by KronoRed
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First I've heard of it..I suppose it's that whole "workman like" thing he and Casey do well, but I think he's more a fav of the FO then the fans.Originally Posted by Stewie
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If the Reds were to trade Harang they better get the mother load in return. I'm not saying Harang is a #1 or a Cy Young winner, but I think the fans would have poop hemorrhage if they traded him. He's been one of the very few shinning lights this season.
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I think everyone is missing the point. You trade players that you have abundance of for types of players you have little of. Aaron Harang, next to the only, bright spot on this pitching roster. He's young, improving every year, and is becoming a power pitcher. Don't trade him!!! Granted he may never be a 1# but he will never be less than a 3# from now on IMO. Don't trade proven pitching for unproven pitching!! Furthermore, the Reds have a ton of power guys. Too many power guys. We have managed to score a ton of RUNS this season thanks to these big boppers, but we still have no PITCHING. Trade two or three of them. I consider the power guys, Pena, Dunn, Kearns, Griffey for proven pitching or unproven pitching depending on the team and the player being traded.
I guess if your going to rebuild then rebuild the Reds seem to just go half the way all the time. I think that is why it has went form a 5 year plan 7 years ago to still trying to decide what the true plan really is. Take the Bengals and the Marvin plan he has pretty much gotten rid of all the players that was there before him and seems to be turning the whole attitude of the team around. The pre-Marvin team had what seemed to be a lazy self centered losing attitude with players that had talent but didn't want to work at all the little things to make then a better player or the team a better team. The new Marvin team Seems to be hungry to improve and give their all to get it done. The Reds may want to clean house too so that the current attitude doesn't infect any of the new players the Reds bring in. The Reds don't have any in your face type of leadership from the Vets. and every one is just happy to be out with their team mates after every loss. Jr is too laid back to be a Mentor and Casey is just to darn nice. There is no one on that pitching staff to really mentor the younger pitchers not even Gully or Miley. So Just Clean house and let the change begin.
I don't think I'm missing the point. Aaron Harang is a good #3 pitcher, and I agree he will probably remain a steady starter for a few more years. The problem is, the Reds will not be competitive next year, and most likely the year after. So what good is it for the Reds to have Aaron Harang on their team? Why not trade him (while his value is really high) and pick up TWO potential #2/#3 starters that will be ready in 2-3 years when the Reds are ready to compete (I know this can be argued, but trust me, it will be AT LEAST 2 years before we're competitive)? Why would you keep him? I suppose his value could go higher, but it could also drop...I cash in now while I have the chance. Not too many starters available at the deadline this year..not that DanO knows anything about this, but if he were smart, he could dictate the market.Originally Posted by forfreelin04
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