I hate to say it, but it's time for Dunn to go.

[redsrule2500]

If Casey goes before Dunn I will be pissed.

How can anyone trade Sean Casey? Stupidest Idea Ever IMO. Dunn can't even keep a good batting average.


Edit: And everyone saying you would be done as Reds fans if they trade Dunn - you aren't real fans then. :thumbdown

[GridironGrace]

Casey is getting up in age and making to much money. 5 years from now how good is casey and how good is Dunn???

Think about it lol

[westofyou]

How can anyone trade Sean Casey?

I'll give you eight and a half million reasons.

[TeamBoone]

Edit: And everyone saying you would be done as Reds fans if they trade Dunn - you aren't real fans then. :thumbdown

I believe only one person said that. And I'm sure he's just... angry.

[redsandrails]

If we could pry decent pitching that has has success in the majors I'd do it. I'm talking a Halladay, Webb, Buerhle, Peavy, Beckett, Oswalt, etc. Sadly though, the "big boys" who want Dunn and can afford Dunn lack these kinda guys. LA has some solid pitching prospects but the other "big boys" don't.

I think the answer is a three team trade. Maybe the Dodgers would get Dunn, send a slew of prospects and maybe Werth to Toronto, and the Reds would get Halladay. Something like that.

[KronoRed]

If Casey goes before Dunn I will be pissed.

How can anyone trade Sean Casey? Stupidest Idea Ever IMO. Dunn can't even keep a good batting average.

Thus proving bat avg is a pretty bad stat to judge players on.

[Redsfaithful]

Edit: And everyone saying you would be done as Reds fans if they trade Dunn - you aren't real fans then. :thumbdown

I wouldn't be done - I'll never be done - but my interest will certainly wane. I will buy less tickets, and less merchandise. My website pretty much demands that I keep up with what's going on, but I've already started to emotionally distance myself from the team. Trading Dunn would only make me care less.

We've entered the place where you have to stop expecting playoff runs and consistent success. Bill James said something about being a fan in Kansas City that resonates with me right now - something about how it's different being a fan of a team like the Royals. You look at the big picture less, and you have to try to enjoy the small moments, the individual accomplishments, the wins you see in person. That's heavily paraphrased I'm sure, but that was the gist of it.

We're no different from Royals fans until we get a different GM. And we probably won't get a GM capable of turning everything around until we're rid of John Allen and Carl Lindner.

So it's probably going to be awhile before things are good again.

I still care, and I'm still a fan, but like I said trading Dunn would just distance me even further.

[flyer85]

3) Dunn will make close to $9 Million dollars next season, that money could go along way next year to fix some of the Reds many problems.

that extra cash sure helped this year. Go get 'em DanO

[Raisor]

that extra cash sure helped this year. Go get 'em DanO

I foresee LIMA TIME in a Reds uni next year.

[CTA513]

I foresee LIMA TIME in a Reds uni next year.

Next year? its going to be this year after the Reds trade Dunn for him.

[captainmorgan07]

9 million sounds better if we put it toward a pitcher this time though get somebody they've scouted looked into and doesn't give up alot of homers

[forfreelin04]

Thus proving bat avg is a pretty bad stat to judge players on.

yeah all those players getting hits alot are pooey give me some long homruns and some walks HECK YAH!!! Oh yeah Ted Williams he was overrated.

Player TEAM POS G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG
1. D Lee
CHC 1B 64 239 51 92 24 0 18 56 170 35 46 9 1 .466 .711 .385
2. B Roberts
BAL 2B 58 230 41 83 15 5 11 36 141 30 34 13 4 .439 .613 .361
3. J Damon
BOS OF 61 259 48 89 18 4 2 37 121 23 26 7 1 .393 .467 .344
4. M Cabrera
FLA OF 62 236 43 80 17 1 11 43 132 20 44 0 0 .389 .559 .339
5. R Mackowiak
PIT OF 56 176 30 59 10 1 6 34 89 22 36 4 3 .412 .506 .335
6. A Pujols
STL 1B 65 253 50 84 17 0 16 52 149 31 27 4 0 .414 .589 .332
7. C Barmes
COL SS 54 225 40 74 16 1 8 34 116 10 23 4 4 .371 .516 .329
8. B Abreu
PHI OF 67 244 49 80 13 0 16 48 141 48 50 17 3 .443 .578 .328
9. M Tejada
BAL SS 65 261 47 85 22 3 18 54 167 19 34 1 1 .373 .640 .326
10. C Delgado
FLA 1B 63 228 38 74 20 0 14 49 136 30 54 0 0 .418 .596 .325
10. N Johnson
WSH 1B 65 228 38 74 17 2 8 39 119 40 46 3 6 .442 .522 .325

Look at these guys OVERRATED.

Trade Casey instead of Dunn what? You've sat too many days indian style smoking the peace pipe with Bill James. Dunn has more trade value and he's lazy. He doesn't want to be here. He doesn't care if he K's more than any other person in baseball history. It's all gravy to Adam. Sean Casey hits over .300 and is what the Reds don't have much of: contact hitting. Plus, he's one of the few guys I'm actually proud of the Reds having on their team. He's great in the community, gives 100% on the field, and he's a good role model not just for young players coming up through the system but for any young person he meets. Not to mention obvious reasons, we cannot not sign Dunn next year with Griff and Milton still on the payroll.

I know all ya Dunn lovers enjoy going out at night and playing "where's my sac fly" in the backseat in the parking lot at BeerBellies but come on!

[flyer85]

9 million sounds better if we put it toward a pitcher this time though get somebody they've scouted looked into and doesn't give up alot of homers

don't even have to scout 'em to determine that. You don't ubderstand, DanO doesn't need the stats. He is endowed with the ability to see things that others can't.

[westofyou]

Trade Casey instead of Dunn what? You've sat too many days indian style smoking the peace pipe with Bill James.

That's a doozy.

Ya conjour that gem up yourself? Or did you get it from Mad Magazines take on Moneyball?

[flyer85]

yeah all those players getting hits alot are pooey give me some long homruns and some walks HECK YAH!!! Oh yeah Ted Williams he was overrated.

Player TEAM POS G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG
1. D Lee
CHC 1B 64 239 51 92 24 0 18 56 170 35 46 9 1 .466 .711 .385
2. B Roberts
BAL 2B 58 230 41 83 15 5 11 36 141 30 34 13 4 .439 .613 .361
3. J Damon
BOS OF 61 259 48 89 18 4 2 37 121 23 26 7 1 .393 .467 .344
4. M Cabrera
FLA OF 62 236 43 80 17 1 11 43 132 20 44 0 0 .389 .559 .339
5. R Mackowiak
PIT OF 56 176 30 59 10 1 6 34 89 22 36 4 3 .412 .506 .335
6. A Pujols
STL 1B 65 253 50 84 17 0 16 52 149 31 27 4 0 .414 .589 .332
7. C Barmes
COL SS 54 225 40 74 16 1 8 34 116 10 23 4 4 .371 .516 .329
8. B Abreu
PHI OF 67 244 49 80 13 0 16 48 141 48 50 17 3 .443 .578 .328
9. M Tejada
BAL SS 65 261 47 85 22 3 18 54 167 19 34 1 1 .373 .640 .326
10. C Delgado
FLA 1B 63 228 38 74 20 0 14 49 136 30 54 0 0 .418 .596 .325
10. N Johnson
WSH 1B 65 228 38 74 17 2 8 39 119 40 46 3 6 .442 .522 .325

Look at these guys OVERRATED.

Trade Casey instead of Dunn what? You've sat too many days indian style smoking the peace pipe with Bill James. Dunn has more trade value and he's lazy. He doesn't want to be here. He doesn't care if he K's more than any other person in baseball history. It's all gravy to Adam. Sean Casey hits over .300 and is what the Reds don't have much of: contact hitting. Plus, he's one of the few guys I'm actually proud of the Reds having on their team. He's great in the community, gives 100% on the field, and he's a good role model not just for young players coming up through the system but for any young person he meets. Not to mention obvious reasons, we cannot not sign Dunn next year with Griff and Milton still on the payroll.

I know all ya Dunn lovers enjoy going out at night and playing "where's my sac fly" in the backseat in the parking lot at BeerBellies but come on!

DanO have you been hanging out in the locker room again?