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    People on Mets Board saying really dumb things about Adam Dunn

    In case such things interest you...

    Some highlights:

    1. 34% of people on the board wouldn't trade away Yusmeiro Petit to get him.

    2. One guy called him "less talented Dave Kingman." (How very original).

    3. "I still think [Dunn] is the type of hitter who could come here and really struggle. I see Sean Casey as the better fit."

    http://www.nyfansites.com/boards/vie...5215&start=160

    Maybe if we're lucky, the guy who posted #3 is Omar Minaya.
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    Re: People on Mets Board saying really dumb things about Adam Dunn

    Maybe if we're lucky, the guy who posted #3 is Omar Minaya.
    Oh yeah... Somebody is getting flipped from the "Incumbent Bunch" along with Randa and any other beer league player (you should have seen RA go 1st to 3rd tonight, it was like watching time stand still)

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    Re: People on Mets Board saying really dumb things about Adam Dunn

    Sounds like Reds Live, but I bet they don't have a daily thread on it.

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    Re: People on Mets Board saying really dumb things about Adam Dunn

    Lets see...

    Dunn
    AB: 240
    Runs: 50
    Hits: 59
    Doubles: 13
    Triples: 2 (yes slow Dunn has more Triples than the speedy Beltran)
    Homeruns: 20
    RBIs: 39
    Walks: 52
    Strikeouts: 82
    Stolen Bases: 3 (2 more than that speed machine Beltran)
    OBP: .393 (.070 more than Beltran)
    SLG: .567 )(.135 more than Beltran)
    AVG: .246 (.020 less than Beltran)

    Beltran
    AB: 259
    Runs: 31
    Hits: 69
    Doubles 16
    Triples: 0
    Homeruns: 9
    RBIs: 37
    Walks: 22
    Strikeouts: 49
    Stolen Bases: 1
    OBP: .323
    SLG: .432
    AVG: .266


    Dunn gets on base and scores more than Beltran...... which ones overpaid?


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    Re: People on Mets Board saying really dumb things about Adam Dunn

    Fun with numbers.

    If the season was to end today Adam Dunn would have a lifetime ob% of .383 a Slg% of .514 104 2b's, 138 HR's and 400 walks.

    In the history of the game here are the only other players under 26 to do that.


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    RUNS CREATED/GAME              RC/G      OBA      SLG      HR       2B       BB     
    1    Ted Williams              13.38     .481     .642      127      154      495   
    2    Jimmie Foxx               10.87     .435     .638      222      196      556   
    3    Mickey Mantle             10.20     .427     .574      207      164      670   
    4    Mel Ott                    8.87     .412     .554      211      224      622   
    5    Eddie Mathews              8.22     .388     .556      222      147      561
    If you knock the walks out 4 more guys get on the list

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    RUNS CREATED/GAME              RC/G      OBA      SLG      HR       2B       BB     
    1    Ted Williams              13.38     .481     .642      127      154      495   
    2    Jimmie Foxx               10.87     .435     .638      222      196      556   
    3    Mickey Mantle             10.20     .427     .574      207      164      670   
    4    Joe DiMaggio              10.11     .402     .623      168      171      260   
    5    Albert Pujols              9.49     .413     .624      160      189      304   
    6    Mel Ott                    8.87     .412     .554      211      224      622   
    7    Willie Mays                8.29     .382     .584      152      102      285   
    8    Eddie Mathews              8.22     .388     .556      222      147      561   
    9    Frank Robinson             7.81     .384     .561      202      177      392

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    Re: People on Mets Board saying really dumb things about Adam Dunn

    All of which are Hall of Famers. I'm amazed at the flak Adam Dunn receives on this board. It's truly amazing that someone as special as Dunn gets so little recognition.

    People on here would have bashed Reggie Jackson and Mike Schmidt too. People can't seem to get over the strikeouts are the end of the world fetish.

    great post woy.
    Last edited by OnBaseMachine; 06-26-2005 at 12:34 AM.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: People on Mets Board saying really dumb things about Adam Dunn

    aren't putting the words "Mets Board" and "dumb" in the same sentence a bit repetative :

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    Re: People on Mets Board saying really dumb things about Adam Dunn

    Big deal. I see Reds fans saying dumb things about him all the time.
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    Re: People on Mets Board saying really dumb things about Adam Dunn

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R
    Big deal. I see Reds fans saying dumb things about him all the time.
    On here? Where?
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    Re: People on Mets Board saying really dumb things about Adam Dunn

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R
    Big deal. I see Reds fans saying dumb things about him all the time.
    Agreed. There are probably a million or more fans out there who don't appreciate Dunn because they're stuck in baseball's eternal stat trap - batting average and Ks and rbi. That's why announcers and writers don't "get it" - most fans wouldn't understand. I think a lot of media really don't get the new standards like OPS and Super Linear Created Runs formulas, but I think a lot of them do but feel it's too complicated to fly for the average fan. Baseball is such an emotional experience for the spectator, and strikeouts wring those emotions. If Dunn hit just .20 points higher, and struck out 50 times less, yet walked 40 times less and hit 10 fewer homers making those changes to his swing - believe me, there are fans who would suddenly call him the new Reggie Jackson and laud his greatness. The fact that he would be a less productive player than he is now would forever escape them.

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    Re: People on Mets Board saying really dumb things about Adam Dunn

    Quote Originally Posted by GAC
    On here? Where?
    Might be easier to just point out topics not about Dunn
    Go Gators!

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    Re: People on Mets Board saying really dumb things about Adam Dunn

    Everyone seems to like the fact Dunn has a High OB% and scores a lot of runs. If that's his game, bat him lead off the ala Bobboone.

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    Re: People on Mets Board saying really dumb things about Adam Dunn

    Quote Originally Posted by 2001MUgrad
    Everyone seems to like the fact Dunn has a High OB% and scores a lot of runs. If that's his game, bat him lead off the ala Bobboone.
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    Re: People on Mets Board saying really dumb things about Adam Dunn

    Quote Originally Posted by 2001MUgrad
    Everyone seems to like the fact Dunn has a High OB% and scores a lot of runs. If that's his game, bat him lead off the ala Bobboone.
    Good idea.

    Get him more AB's.
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    Re: People on Mets Board saying really dumb things about Adam Dunn

    Hey Jake on base and slugging% have been around the entire 45 years Iv'e been a fan so when you add them together its not hard to understand.I 'll still look at run production when I judge a players ability.
    I like Dunn but if the bases were loaded and I needed a run and it was down to Freel or Dunn I'm afraid Adam sits this one out.
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