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    Sandra Day O'Conner stepped down....

    .... from the Supreme Court.

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    Re: Sandra Day O'Conner stepped down....

    not a big deal. It only is a big deal if a justice with a different judicial philosophy than the President steps down.

    That of course does not mean there will not be a huge fight in the Senate.
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    I bet the 'Pubs try to install a right-wing activist judge. Oh wait, Republicans are strict constitutional constructionists. They would never try to mess with the Constitution.

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    Re: Sandra Day O'Conner stepped down....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo Cabesa
    not a big deal. It only is a big deal if a justice with a different judicial philosophy than the President steps down.

    That of course does not mean there will not be a huge fight in the Senate.
    It's a huge deal--Bush is an arch-conservative; O'Connor is a moderate. This will be ugly. You can kiss good-bye most of your civil rights if you're a minority or a woman.

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    If the rights of the people are going away, it is the activist left wing justices who are doing it. See the recents property rights and medicinal weed cases.
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    O'Connor and Kennedy have generally the swing votes betwen the three more "conservative"* justices and the four more "liberal"* justices. If she is replaced by a more conservative justice, this would affect the makeup of the Supreme Court more than it would be affected if Bush replaced Rehnquist or Thomas or Scalia. It won't affect the Court as much as would occur if Bush replaced someone on the Court's liberal wing such as Souter or Ginsberg.
    Yeah, there will be a fight in the Senate, and, yeah, it'll probably be ugly.
    *I'm using the terms "conservative"and "liberal" because I can't think of more descriptive and accurate retms, but those terms have limited usefulness.
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    Re: Sandra Day O'Conner stepped down....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo Cabesa
    If the rights of the people are going away, it is the activist left wing justices who are doing it. See the recents property rights and medicinal weed cases.
    Riiight. The "rights" that matter to white males, eh? Pretend you just got knocked up by your brother. Now pretend there's nothing you can do about it but have the baby.

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    Re: Sandra Day O'Conner stepped down....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo Cabesa
    If the rights of the people are going away, it is the activist left wing justices who are doing it. See the recents property rights and medicinal weed cases.
    In fairness, Scalia voted with the "liberal" wing in the property rights case, and he may have also voted with the majority in the marijuana case ( I can't recall).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    You can kiss good-bye most of your civil rights if you're a minority or a woman.
    Sometimes I think people believe there is only 1 judge on the Supreme Court. We'll have to mark this comment down. Pretty radical comment... really (and then some). Most of their civil rights, you say? We will see about that.

    Betting your first born's services on this comment?

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    Re: Sandra Day O'Conner stepped down....

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    Riiight. The "rights" that matter to white males, eh? Pretend you just got knocked up by your brother. Now pretend there's nothing you can do about it but have the baby.

    Fun. (Cuz Gawd says ev'ry life is a precious meer-cul from Gawd)
    Is abortion now illegal in this country?!? Do tell. Or just more radical comments!??!
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    Re: Sandra Day O'Conner stepped down....

    Quote Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966
    Sometimes I think people believe there is only 1 judge on the Supreme Court. We'll have to mark this comment down. Pretty radical comment... really (and then some). Most of their civil rights, you say? We will see about that.

    Betting your first born's services on this comment?

    Rumor... Dems are desparately seeking Anita Hill!! Anita... where are you?!?!
    This Court was known as the "O'Connor Court" for a reason.

    A Court usually does end up being "one" person. The swing person.

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    Re: Sandra Day O'Conner stepped down....

    Quote Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966
    Is abortion now illegal in this country?!? Do tell. Or just more radical comments!??!
    Not this minute, but it will be after W. appoints Rufus or Cleetus.

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    Re: Sandra Day O'Conner stepped down....

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    This Court was known as the "O'Connor Court" for a reason.

    A Court usually does end up being "one" person. The swing person.
    Most civil rights of minorities and women.... gone. Radical?? Explain yourself. You said it. Please elborate... if you care (dare?).
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    Re: Sandra Day O'Conner stepped down....

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    Not this minute, but it will be after W. appoints Rufus or Cleetus.
    Betting your first born on this comment? Or do you have ESP?

    RADICAL!
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    Re: Sandra Day O'Conner stepped down....

    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/r...20050627.shtml

    June 27, 2005

    WASHINGTON -- It was not merely a leak from the normally leak-proof Bush White House. For more than a week, a veritable torrent has tipped Attorney General Alberto Gonzales as President Bush's first nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court. It has sent the conservative movement into spasms of fear and loathing.

    Gonzales long has been unacceptable to anti-abortion activists because of his record as a Texas Supreme Court justice. Beyond pro-lifers, he is opposed by organized conservative lawyers. Ironically, the same Bush supporters who have been raising money and devising tactics for the mother of all judicial confirmation fights are in a panic that Gonzales will be named. With the president's popularity falling among his conservative base as well as the general populace, a politically disastrous moment may be at hand.

    The president will have to act quickly if the high court's current session ends today [Monday] with a resignation. Justice Sandra Day O'Connor now is considered more likely to quit than ailing Chief Justice William Rehnquist. White House leaks describe Gonzales as the leading prospect for either vacancy. That creates a situation filled with irony, contradictions and questions.

    For example, why the torrent of Gonzales leaks from a White House extraordinarily adept at holding back the president's intended nominations? It looks like a trial balloon, but there are also suspicions that Gonzales's name has been floated by critics in order to shoot him down.

    If opposition to abortion is Bush's pre-eminent social conservative position, Gonzales is a most improbable choice. He could not bring himself to support parental notification on the Texas Supreme Court. While he professes to be anti-abortion, he maintains Roe v. Wade is inviolable -- a judicial version of John Kerry's formulation.

    Conservatives fear Gonzales will be another in a long line of Supreme Court justices who have proved more liberal than the president who appointed them expected -- John Paul Stevens, Sandra Day O'Connor, Anthony Kennedy, David Souter. That is a view widely held inside the White House, but not by the occupant who counts most. George W. Bush loves Al Gonzales and would like his former chief counsel to head a "Gonzales Court."

    Since Gonzales was confirmed as attorney general after a nasty debate over treatment of terrorist detainees, the argument he would be confirmed more easily than other prospects might seem dubious. But Senate Democrats may have expunged anti-Gonzales bile from their system and be willing to support somebody who is markedly less conservative than any other nominee.

    Indeed, all other possibilities are conservative. They face trouble from Democratic senators who have led the campaign to block Bush's judicial nominees. Three of them, Sens. Edward M. Kennedy, Patrick Leahy and Charles Schumer, went on the Senate floor last Thursday morning to issue a virtual ultimatum. Underneath restrained rhetoric, they were telling the president: name justices acceptable to us or face a bitter battle. Gonzales might be the most acceptable name mentioned.

    The White House has sent word that two favorites of the conservative movement -- Appellate Judge J. Harvie Wilkinson (4th Circuit, Richmond, Va.) and former Solicitor General Theodore Olson -- are ineligible because they are over 60. The two current favorites are Appellate Judges John Roberts (D.C. Circuit) and J. Michael Luttig (4th Circuit).

    But sources report Rehnquist is not ready to resign and that O'Connor is readying the way for a return to Arizona with her invalid husband. While Bush would consider replacing one of the court's two women with its first Hispanic justice, neither Roberts nor Luttig for O'Connor would be politically correct.

    Accordingly, White House judge-hunters are looking for a woman. They have interviewed Appellate Judge Edith Brown Clement (5th Circuit, New Orleans), a conservative who flies under the radar. She was confirmed as a Louisiana district judge in 1991, seven weeks after her nomination by the first President Bush, and was confirmed as an appellate judge in 2001, two and a half months after George W. Bush named her.

    Clement would be subject to far more scrutiny as a Supreme Court nominee. So would any other conservative named by Bush, though Democrats may have exhausted scrutinizing Gonzales. The president must choose between a fierce confirmation fight or the alienation of his political base.
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