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    Annother big day for the Man. I've been watching this race for the last two years, and I have yet to see Armstrong "crack" or have a bad day. Someone like Vinokourov will have a great day like he did on Wednesday, but it always catches up with them like it did today. Not Armstrong.

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    Anyone else catch T-Mobile just embarrass their own teammate today - Vinokourov?

    Vino moved away on a break, and the T-Mobile guys were the ones leading the way to reel him in. He looked back to see who was about to catch him, and you could just see it in his face when he saw the pink jerseys. Liggett and Sherwin just savaged T-Mobile for doing that to a teammate.

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    Sunday should be the most interesting day of the Tour. Hot and mountainous with T Mobile again on the attack, for better or for worse. Plus its the 10th aniversary of the death of Fabio Casartelli who crashed on the Portet d'Aspet on July 17,1995. He was Armstrong's teamate at the time and Armstrong honored him by pointing to the sky when he won a stage a few days later. The riders will go up (and down) Portet d'Aspet Sunday, right past a monument to Casartelli.
    Lance may really want to win this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcclain19
    Anyone else catch T-Mobile just embarrass their own teammate today - Vinokourov?

    Vino moved away on a break, and the T-Mobile guys were the ones leading the way to reel him in. He looked back to see who was about to catch him, and you could just see it in his face when he saw the pink jerseys. Liggett and Sherwin just savaged T-Mobile for doing that to a teammate.
    That's just a messed up team. Vino's an all-or-nothing wild child on the mountains. If they reined him him and put him on Ullrich's wheel (who in turn would be on Kloden's wheel) they could have a machine capable of putting Lance in pain. Vino could pounce late on the climbs that way and Lance would have to try to match him. Yet T-Mobile's got too many guys who think they're the top dog. Ullrich can't beat Lance. He's proven it. Kloden doesn't have the talent for it. Vino's the guy who, if the team worked him for as hard as Discovery Channel does for Lance, could have a real shot at winning the Tour.

    Though there's a few strange teams out there. Phonak's done nothing for Floyd Landis even though he's clearly better than Santiago Botero and Oscar Pereiro (two guys constantly trying to jump off the front). Rabobank's got the breakout performer of the race in Mickael Rasmussen and they've left him to fend for himself. Then again, I don't understand why brilliant attackers like Juan Antonio Flecha, Axel Merckx and David Moncoutie aren't on teams with legit GC contenders. Imagine the damage guys like that could do if they were put in a George Hincapie type of role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    That's just a messed up team. Vino's an all-or-nothing wild child on the mountains. If they reined him him and put him on Ullrich's wheel (who in turn would be on Kloden's wheel) they could have a machine capable of putting Lance in pain. Vino could pounce late on the climbs that way and Lance would have to try to match him. Yet T-Mobile's got too many guys who think they're the top dog. Ullrich can't beat Lance. He's proven it. Kloden doesn't have the talent for it. Vino's the guy who, if the team worked him for as hard as Discovery Channel does for Lance, could have a real shot at winning the Tour.

    Though there's a few strange teams out there. Phonak's done nothing for Floyd Landis even though he's clearly better than Santiago Botero and Oscar Pereiro (two guys constantly trying to jump off the front). Rabobank's got the breakout performer of the race in Mickael Rasmussen and they've left him to fend for himself. Then again, I don't understand why brilliant attackers like Juan Antonio Flecha, Axel Merckx and David Moncoutie aren't on teams with legit GC contenders. Imagine the damage guys like that could do if they were put in a George Hincapie type of role.
    I was actually talking about a similiar topic just on Friday with a coworker.

    Look at CSC - they left the yellow jersey just lying on the ground for goodness sake. In Team time trials, it's the fifth guy who counts for time, so they could have left a few guys there to help him up, and pace him back. He's the race leader, for goodness sake.

    I think that just demoralized poor Zabriskie, and the severe injuries just compounded on that. I think it was Bob Roll who said that Zabriskie going down like that was good for his career. Because extreme devestation like that, will drive him to come back, as when you've experienced the lows on the tour, it makes you strive for the highs that much more.

    I'm blown away at how many times nickel and dime the tour, looking for a stage win here and there, or simply have no focus or goals what so ever.

    Maybe US Postal/Discovery has spoiled all of us, with their pristine execution over the last several years. Next year will be probably the most exciting tour in a long time, as it won't be "Who can beat Lance" but a free for all throwing strategy to the wind.

    I also heard Vinokourov, when asked about his plans for next season, say he wanted to ride for Discovery, and that was the only change in rides he would accept.

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    Next year should be pretty good, No LA (He is JUST too good ) .

    It's true what you are both saying about the (supposedly ) rival teams tactics, there seems no planned tactics at all. I dont expect to see it happen BUT today is still a big day & things could happen to give LA some worries going into the rest day. Has Rasmussen got anything left? I doubt it. LA to win the stage.

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    Every time I start to question LA he outdoes himself again. Today was the equivalent of hitting a grandslam homer in the last at bat of your career.

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    Yesterday was an amazing performance by Lance. Today was simply the victory parade.

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    After watching Armstrong the last two years, I think I have discovered the secret to his success: The guy can really ride a bike. Seriously, did anybody notice that during the last time trial all the rest of these great riders would, by necesssity, slow down everytime they went into one of the many sharp turns? Not LA. He kept the same speed throughout and seldom braked even going into the most hairpin corners.

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    Re: 2005 Tour de France thread

    Report Exonorates Armstrong of Doping
    May 31 9:23 AM US/Eastern
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    By ARTHUR MAX
    Associated Press Writer

    AMSTERDAM, Netherlands

    Dutch investigators cleared Lance Armstrong of doping in the 1999 Tour de France on Wednesday, and blamed anti-doping authorities for misconduct in dealing with the American cyclist.
    A 132-page report recommended convening a tribunal to discuss possible legal and ethical violations by the World Anti-Doping Agency and to consider "appropriate sanctions to remedy the violations."

    The French sports daily L'Equipe reported in August that six of Armstrong's urine samples from 1999, when he won the first of his record seven-straight Tour titles, came back positive for the endurance-boosting hormone EPO when they were retested in 2004.
    Armstrong has repeatedly denied using banned substances.
    The International Cycling Union appointed Dutch lawyer Emile Vrijman last October to investigate the handling of urine tests from the 1999 Tour by the French national anti-doping laboratory, known by its French acronym LNDD.
    Vrijman said Wednesday his report "exonerates Lance Armstrong completely with respect to alleged use of doping in the 1999 Tour de France."
    The report also said the UCI had not damaged Armstrong by releasing doping control forms to the French newspaper.
    The report said WADA and the LNDD may have "behaved in ways that are completely inconsistent with the rules and regulations of international anti-doping control testing," and may also have been against the law.
    Vrijman, who headed the Dutch anti-doping agency for 10 years and later defended athletes accused of doping, worked on the report with Adriaan van der Veen, a scientist with the Dutch Metrology Laboratory.
    EPO, or erythropoietin, is a synthetic hormone that boosts the oxygen- carrying capacity of the blood.
    Testing for EPO only began in 2001.
    Armstrong had challenged the validity of testing samples frozen six years ago, and how they were handled.
    Vrijman said a further investigation was needed regarding the leaking of the results to the French paper.
    He said a tribunal should be created to "provide a fair hearing" to the people and organizations suspected of misconduct and to decide on sanctions if warranted.
    World Anti-Doping Agency chief Dick Pound accused former ICU president Hein Verbruggen of leaking documents about the alleged positive tests to a reporter from L'Equipe. Pound also questioned the union's willingness to fully investigate the allegations.
    The anti-doping lab at Chatenay-Malabry has been accused of violating confidentiality regulations.
    Mario Zorzoli, the doctor who gave copies of Armstrong's doping control forms to L'Equipe, was suspended by the UCI for one month earlier this year. He has since been reinstated.
    The full report was sent to the UCI, the LNDD, the French sports ministry, WADA and Armstrong's lawyer. The International Olympic Committee also had requested a copy.
    The accusations against Armstrong raised questions about how frozen samples, routinely held for eight years, should be used. IOC president Jacques Rogge has said he was willing to have urine samples checked retroactively, but with clear procedures that would have to be set up by WADA.


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