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    Marty: Forget the walks

    Marty was just on XM radio's "Baseball Beat" with Charlie Steiner.

    The first topic was Adam Dunn:
    Marty says the walks are nice, but he says Dunn is payed to drive in runs. His exact words were "to Hell with the walks." Marty says he wants Dunn to swing the bat with RISP and forget about the walks. He says if Dunn ever consistantly "gets it," ...watch out.

    Harang:
    Marty really likes him. Says he's become the kind of pitcher that you are surprised if he has a bad outing. Throws a lot of first pitch strikes.

    Milton:
    "Disaster"

    Ortiz:
    Marty will be shocked if Ortiz is back next season.

    Kearns, Dunn, Pena:
    Marty doesn't feel that any of the three will be moved during the season. He says the Reds want ML ready starting pitching, but nobody in a pennant race will be willing to give that up. He feels Wily Mo will be moved in the off season.

    DanO's plan:
    Marty isn't sure what it is. He says DanO "thinks" he has a plan. He then reeled off all of the questionable moves made before the season.

    Randa:
    Loves him. Says he'll really help the Padres, and he enjoyed having him with the Reds.

    Germano & Chick:
    Marty knows nothing about them. He says he never listens to praise coming from his own front office. There's no way the Reds' FO will give a bad review about incoming prospects. However, he says he heard that other organizations had the two ranked highly. He thinks that's a good sign.

    Narron & Miley:
    The biggest difference between Narron & Miley is that Narron is a DanO guy. Miley was not. He also says Narron does a better job communicating with the players and has done a good job since taking over.

    Further trades?:
    He says there will probably be a lot of interest in Weathers and Merker. He doesn't want to see either of them go because he thinks it good to have them around the young arms in the pen. He also praised Rich Aurilia and said he could help a lot of teams. He mentioned the Cubs specifically.

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    Re: Marty: Forget the walks

    To Hell with the walks."

    Marty Brenneman
    Never swing at a ball you're fooled on or have trouble hitting.

    Ted Williams
    I know who I'll listen to.

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    Re: Marty: Forget the walks

    Quote Originally Posted by sigep529
    Marty was just on XM radio's "Baseball Beat" with Charlie Steiner.

    The first topic was Adam Dunn:
    Marty says the walks are nice, but he says Dunn is payed to drive in runs. His exact words were "to Hell with the walks." Marty says he wants Dunn to swing the bat with RISP and forget about the walks. He says if Dunn ever consistantly "gets it," ...watch out.

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    The next time Marty complains about one of the Reds pitchers walking a guy with runners on, he should be immediatly reminded about this quote.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: Marty: Forget the walks

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    I know who I'll listen to.

    a headless frozen Ted Williams still knows more about hitting then Marty ever will.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: Marty: Forget the walks

    DanO's plan:
    Marty isn't sure what it is. He says DanO "thinks" he has a plan. He then reeled off all of the questionable moves made before the season.
    Those very moves that Marty was building up when they were made and all during ST? He was as ga-ga as everyone else about how good the Reds looked "on paper"
    Can't win with 'em

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    Re: Marty: Forget the walks

    didn't George Foster basically say the same thing about Dunn taking too many walks?

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    Re: Marty: Forget the walks

    Telling the truth about Dunn (getting paid for rbi's, not walks) wont go well on this board. Didnt George Foster say basically the same thing shortly ago?


    Those two dont know aanything about baseball, Im sure.

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    Re: Marty: Forget the walks

    Dunn gets paid to not make outs and gain as many bases as he can at the plate. He is doing his job as evidenced by the .393 OBP and .586 SLG.

    Marty doesn't know what he is talking about.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: Marty: Forget the walks

    Quote Originally Posted by tp_on_safari
    Telling the truth about Dunn (getting paid for rbi's, not walks) wont go well on this board. Didnt George Foster say basically the same thing shortly ago?


    Those two dont know aanything about baseball, Im sure.
    The truth?

    Bahahahahhaha

    Truth is a reality crafted by ones relationship with the world around them.

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    Re: Marty: Forget the walks

    Dear Marty forget the walks.

    Code:
    8000-10000 ab's less than 550 walks
    
    RBI                             RBI      BB       AB       OBA     RC/G    
    1    Joe Carter                 1445      527     8422    -.028     0.17   
    2    Al Oliver                  1326      535     9049     .013     0.91   
    3    Steve Garvey               1308      479     8835    -.002     0.49   
    4    Bill Buckner               1208      450     9397    -.009     0.01   
    5    George Sisler              1175      472     8267     .024     1.60   
    6    Willie Davis               1053      418     9174    -.016     0.15   
    7    Marquis Grissom             952      546     8138    -.020     -.35   
    8    Larry Bowa                  525      474     8418    -.032    -1.08  
    
    
    8000-10000 ab's more  than 600 walks
    
    RBI                             RBI      BB       AB       OBA     RC/G    
    1    Babe Ruth                  2210     2062     8399     .118     7.86   
    2    Lou Gehrig                 1995     1508     8001     .086     5.59   
    3    Jimmie Foxx                1921     1452     8134     .070     4.66   
    4    Mel Ott                    1860     1708     9456     .071     3.83   
    5    Barry Bonds                1843     2302     9098     .107     5.80   
    6    Al Simmons                 1827      615     8761     .019     2.29   
    7    Reggie Jackson             1702     1375     9864     .030     1.81   
    8    Tony Perez                 1652      925     9778     .012     1.03   
    9    Ernie Banks                1636      763     9421     .000     0.96   
    10   Harold Baines              1628     1062     9908     .023     1.00

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    Re: Marty: Forget the walks

    the old "not make outs" mantra (sigh)......

    If you're going to play LEFT FIELD you're there for your HITTING or because you're going to steal 100 bases. I'll take a "not make outs" mantra from a catcher who does a good job defensively and handling pitching staff or from an infield glove guy or "maybe" CF who takes away would be hits. But if you're going to play LF or 1B you're paid to HIT THE BALL. Forget the walks.

    MARTY

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    Re: Marty: Forget the walks

    off top of head, Gehrig/Ruth .340 hitters - top batting averages for their era.
    Foxx .320's - high average for era
    Simmons, Bonds relatively high batting averages as well....

    Those guys got walks yes, but paid for their power and overall HITTING and ability to drive in runs not their walks.

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    Re: Marty: Forget the walks

    I can't believe people still want Adam to "expand his zone" with RISP, thus allowing his average, OBP, and SLG to go south. Barry Bonds must be a horrible LF'er. He walks entirely too much.

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    Re: Marty: Forget the walks

    Quote Originally Posted by tp_on_safari
    Telling the truth about Dunn (getting paid for rbi's, not walks) wont go well on this board. Didnt George Foster say basically the same thing shortly ago?


    Those two dont know aanything about baseball, Im sure.
    Dunn's paid to create runs.

    Something that he's really good a.

    Here's the list of NL players better then Dunn at Creating Runs so far in 2005:
    D. Lee
    A. Pujols
    M. Cabrera
    B. Abreau
    A. Ramirez
    J. Bay

    Not a bad group of players to be compared with, huh?
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: Marty: Forget the walks

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    Truth is a reality crafted by ones relationship with the world around them.
    Great quote, is that famous, or can I pretend I authored it?


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