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    Re: I believe

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommyjohn25
    Deep down inside I still think they have a shot, but passing the Stros is gonna be tough. They are on fire right now and have great pitching, though their offense can't hold a candle to ours.
    I think now that St. Louis has suffered some appreciable offensive losses, no one can claim clear offensive superiority. The Reds are now just a shade better than St. Louis (any team with Pujols batting third and Edmonds fourth is automatically a top 3 NL offense), somewhat better than Houston, and about on a par with Chicago. Now if Kearns or Pena decides to do anything in this decade, the Reds get thrust in front again.

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    Re: I believe

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    I think now that St. Louis has suffered some appreciable offensive losses, no one can claim clear offensive superiority. The Reds are now just a shade better than St. Louis (any team with Pujols batting third and Edmonds fourth is automatically a top 3 NL offense), somewhat better than Houston, and about on a par with Chicago. Now if Kearns or Pena decides to do anything in this decade, the Reds get thrust in front again.
    The Astros are 11th in runs scored, we are light years ahead of them.

    THe Cubs are 6th, 61 runs behind us. THey are not on par with our offense.

    The Cards are the only team even close to us.

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    Re: I believe

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed
    No.

    ...we also don't get to see the NL west much more this year

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    REDS 7, PADRES 1

    Padres admit they're awful after Reds sweep

    Dunn's slam caps lopsided series vs. ex-West leaders

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    SAN DIEGO - The San Diego Padres' slump has gotten so bad that a disenchanted fan stood up during the sixth inning yesterday and started yelling, "Let's go, Chargers, let's go," a chant that rang out through the quiet ballpark.

    The Padres aren't quite ready to make way for the city's NFL franchise, but they haven't exactly been playing like a first-place team for most of the summer.

    And now they technically aren't a first-place team.

    Adam Dunn hit a grand slam in the fifth inning, Cincinnati's third homer of the game, and the Reds beat San Diego 7-1 to drop the Padres percentage points behind the Arizona Diamondbacks in the sad-sack NL West.

    Wily Mo Pena and Rich Aurilia also homered to complete the three-game sweep for the Reds, who have won a season-high five straight.

    "We know we're awful," Manager Bruce Bochy said. "We're embarrassed, to be honest. We've got to keep coming out here and getting after it. We have no choice.

    "Right now it's like a virus has hit our bats and now it's hit our staff a little bit. We've got to get this thing cured, and quick."

    The Padres have lost 12 of 13 overall and 35 of 53 since June 1. Clutch hits and home runs have practically disappeared, and their bullpen is running on fumes because starters haven't been going deep into games.

    The Reds outscored San Diego 24-5 and made spacious Petco Park play like a bandbox. The Reds outhomered the Padres 8-0 and outhit them 33-18. The Reds had 21 extra-base hits while the Padres had just four.

    "Our team is going to hit home runs regardless," Dunn said. "It's a big park but I don't think that the park really matters."

    Dunn went 6-for-14 with three homers, two doubles and nine RBI in the series.

    San Diego has gone eight games without a homer. The Padres failed to connect off Eric Milton, who leads the majors with 31 homers allowed.

    Milton (5-11) threw seven scoreless innings, allowing four hits while striking out six and walking none. He retired 16 of his final 17 batters and lowered his ERA from 7.03 to 6.65.

    "That's the best I've felt all season," Milton said. "Today was good for me to throw up zeros like that. Today was really what I've been looking for."

    n Aaron Harang threw eight strong innings against his hometown team, and Sean Casey and Javier Valentin homered as the Reds beat San Diego 9-1 on Saturday night.

    Harang (7-9) improved to 3-0 in his career against the Padres. He held them to one run and seven hits, struck out four and walked one.

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    Re: I believe

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM
    Actually, there are only eight teams in front of the Reds.
    Oh, that settles it. I'm in!






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    Re: I believe

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph
    Barring a miracle of some sort, I just don't see it. The Cubs get closer Kerry Wood, SS Nomar Garciaparra, and set up man Scotty Williamson back on friday, plus added OF Matt Lawton yesterday..
    I watched Wood pitch yesterday against single A Fort Wayne, the Padres farm club. He only threw fastballs and sliders to save his arm, but he did give up a hit in his one inning. His fastball had good velocity, but against major league competition I dont think he will be real great the rest of this season.

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    Re: I believe

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig
    The Astros are 11th in runs scored, we are light years ahead of them.

    THe Cubs are 6th, 61 runs behind us. THey are not on par with our offense.

    The Cards are the only team even close to us.
    But that doesn't take into account how the teams are currently constructed and who is producing in the now: the Reds have lost Randa and almost all production from RF (where off and on we got production early in the year).

    The Cubs ADD Lawton and Garciaparra (maybe) and still keep their two MVP candidates in Lee and Ramirez--plus they play in a home run neutral and slight-pitcher favorable park, so that suppresses some offense. The Cubs ARE close to the Reds, regardless of runs scored totals.

    And Houston just keeps getting better offensively, and I just don't know how.

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    Re: I believe

    I believe a wildcard spot is out of reach, but if the Reds could go 34-23 the rest of the way, that would give them a .500 record for the year.

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    Not impossible... Unlikely? Hell yeah. I aint giving up on em' though. Go Reds!!

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    Re: I believe

    Sorry, but this team's playoff hopes are dead. I'd rather concentrate on shaping this team up for 2006 than worry about winning games in 2005 at this point.

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    Re: I believe

    I don't see Houston slowing down very much. Even if they do we will still need a .550 winning percentage to hope for the wildcard. That would mean we have to play .750 ball the rest of the way. We've played .700 ball the last twenty games against teams with a combined .450 winning percentage. And we need to improve our record against teams with a combined winning percentage (weighted per game played) of .511. I wish I could say I see that happening, but I don't. And even if we made the playoffs, we would get demolished with our pitching, starters to bullpen.
    Thank goodness for baseball.

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    Re: I believe

    My heart says I'm with you, my head says you're nuts! I'm just hoping to make a run at the Brewers and fight it out for third in the division.

    (For you Cub fans, they're going to sleep with the Pirates--Nomar or No Nomar, and that's no knock on Wood, but we've all had Prior knowledge of their Dusty tricks.)

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    Re: I believe

    Get ready for 06 should be the team plan right now.
    Go Gators!

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    I believe for every drop of rain that falls
    A flower grows,
    I believe that somewhere in the darkest night
    A candle glows.

    I believe for everyone who goes astray
    Someone will come to show the way.
    I believe,
    Oh, I believe.

    I believe above the storm
    The smallest prayer, will still be heard.
    I believe that someone in that great somewhere
    Hears every word

    Every time I hear a newborn baby cry,
    Or touch a leaf
    Or see the sky,
    Then I know why I believe.

    Every time I hear a newborn baby cry,
    Or touch a leaf
    Or see the sky,
    Then I know why I believe.

    Pay attention to the open sky

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    Re: I believe

    No. But I think this team will make a run at 3rd place and be "media darlings" next sping with a strong finish and outstanding offense.

    I think this team is better then most people think...Believe me I have been very critical of the red's FO and ownership but this team can swing the bat. The last few years I would attend alot of games early in the season then stop going at all come July. This year it has been just the opposite, the team is fun to watch. They will score alot of runs . Hope the FO keeps them together.

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    Re: I believe

    we're 5 back of the brewers, so i'm just focusing on that. the astros made their run last year because of amazing pitching, something that we don't have. i'm sorry, but when aaron harang is your ace, you're not a playoff team. with that being said, i admire this team for not giving up, and hopefully they can play well the rest of the year and possibly sneak back to .500, which would be a HUGE accomplishment. keep in mind, this franchise hasn't had a winning season since 2000, i believe the longest drought since the 50's. so if we were somehow able to get to 82 wins, that'd be a great plus. but as far as the wild card is concerned..... almost impossible. now, if we were still in the western division, we'd be only 4 games out


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