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    Re: Reds and Braves 8-4-05

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelSD
    Francoeur- Quick bat. Excellent range. Cannon arm.

    Needs to develop a discipline skill set pronto or he's going to need to hit .330 to be a really good offensive player. Fine player though.
    What he said, getting some good rakes currently, sometime those will be outs though.

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    Re: Reds and Braves 8-4-05

    The thing is that Francoeur can reach anything and hit it with authority. I saw him hit a pitch 3 inches off the ground about 400 feet. He also will go the other way when pitched away. He will need to improve the plate dicipline but he doesn't have to be a walk machine because he can reach so many balls and hit them with authority.

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    Re: Reds and Braves 8-4-05

    Quote Originally Posted by striker42
    The thing is that Francoeur can reach anything and hit it with authority. I saw him hit a pitch 3 inches off the ground about 400 feet. He also will go the other way when pitched away. He will need to improve the plate dicipline but he doesn't have to be a walk machine because he can reach so many balls and hit them with authority.
    He doesn't have to be a walk machine. The fact that he doesn't really seem to know what they are limits his projectible upside at this point, however.

    You're seeing the very very best of Francoeur right now. But that's not the real Jeff Francoeur just as the very very best short-term production from any player isn't who that player really is.

    And I'll just chalk up the "...Francoeur can reach anything and hit it with authority" comment to a Braves fan being giddy about having a RF who's actually doing something with the bat (finally) this season. His minor league results haven't demonstrated that he has some unique uncanny ability to do that to the extent you suggest.

    Again, fine player, but when the league gets the "book" on him, he projects to have a bit of difficulty adjusting because it doesn't appear that he's ever had a real good grasp on the whole balls and strikes thing.
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    Re: Reds and Braves 8-4-05

    Just got back from tonight's game. Some observations:

    1) Harang looked gassed early. I would have pinch-hit for him after Valentin and Encarnacion led off with back-to-back walks.

    2) Weathers also looked gassed. He didn't have much last night, and he didn't have much tonight, either.

    3) Standridge and Shackelford looked pretty good. Shack made a mistake to the first batter he faced, but then he settled down after the homer.

    4) Casey had a heck of a game!

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    Re: Reds and Braves 8-4-05

    He needs to be pitched inside and backed off the plate more often....he is hacking at everything and hitting it. Weathers was dumb enough to give him something on 0-2....when he should have bounced it or moved him off the plate.

    He basically looks like AK did during 2002 and early 2003.

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    Re: Reds and Braves 8-4-05

    AK? no...Kearns always took pitches.

    Think more like Manny Sanguillen.
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    Re: Reds and Braves 8-4-05

    Forgot to say....AK like minus the walks/taking pitches.

    How about more like a healthy Sixto Lezcano, when he was with MIL?


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