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    Re: Is Jason LaRue overpaid or just underappreciated?

    LaRue would definately fall into the underappreciated category. He is tough and give everything he has. His numbers speak for themselves. I don't think you can put a price on his worth. You have to love the way everybody on the team talks about him. It would be useless to try and trade him. If you do, you are probably taking a lesser talent, and eventhough it may save you money, you have to remember that a catcher affects more players on the team than any other player. They call the pitches, act as a coach to the pitcher, have to remember the scouting reports, and have to play excellent Defense. They touch the ball more than anybody except for maybe the starting pitcher. They are like quarterbacks. Getting a lesser catcher may also decrease the worth of your pitchers, and other teammates.

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    Re: Is Jason LaRue overpaid or just underappreciated?

    He feels young since he's still not a service level FA until 2007, but Jason will be 32 next spring. That's getting old for a brutal physical position and makes any kind of LTC above $4M per year far too risky for the franchise.

    He's never posted more than 400AB in a season as a Red and won't again this season Don't forget that he's a career .740 OPS player. Will he continue to play at an .800 OPS level or revert back to a more injury prone and lower .700 level?

    Assuming he slots in the $4.5-5M type range for 2006, I'd rather try to move him and certainly wouldn't advocate a LTC. Let's not fall into that trap again with another of the '99/'00 "kids". If the Reds can sneak in another year or two in the low 3's then that's a coup and I'd keep him if he couldn't be moved.

    Resource constrained franchises make sound financial moves and tough decisions. Not signing Larue to a costly LTC would be one of those decisions. Investing the resources elsewhere and going down a platoon type path with lower priced alternatives makes better sense going forward.

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    Re: Is Jason LaRue overpaid or just underappreciated?

    Building on what James B. and acredsfans said concerning Larue's blood and guts credentials, I'm going to make a sweeping generalization here (which means I'm sure to put some nose out of joint, but oh well).

    A lot of the people on this board who've expressed their distaste for LaRue over the years have been of the old school, it takes more than stats to win persuasion and it baffles me how the guy who's perhaps the most hard-nosed player to wear a Reds uniform in the past decade isn't more popular with them.

    I know he's got his faults (every player does), but the guy goes to war every night. In the past we're heard that he doesn't do the little things well. This pretty much refers solely to passed balls (of which he hasn't allowed many this season). Yet if you want little things, LaRue has that cannon arm, he's cat-quick on bunts and popups, he's a pit bull when he's blocking the plate, he gets pelted in order to boost his OB and he takes extra bases as well as any catcher in the game. That's a lot of nice amenities for a major league catcher. Also, if the Reds have a clutch hitter, a guy who boosts his offensive game in key situations, his name is Jason LaRue. Combine all of that with the blood and guts and I'm shocked he isn't a demi-icon in Cincinnati. This is the kind of player fans normally fall in love with. He's right out of Dirt Players Local #134.

    The only reason I can see why many fans haven't cottoned to him is his batting average, which is never going to set the earth on fire. If that's the case, and I can't say for sure it is, it's a shame they've overlooked a guy who's busted his tail for this franchise due to a throwaway detail.

    I figure this is Jason's last year with the Reds and I've really enjoyed watching him. His take no prisoners approach to the game has made some tough years a lot easier to digest for this fan.
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    Re: Is Jason LaRue overpaid or just underappreciated?

    I like Larue. He's one of my favorite Reds. TMBS, I'm not so sure the Reds wouldn't be better off trading him this off season if they can get good value. The likely hood is that he'll get a better offer than the Reds should be willing to give him when he hits free agency and I think they have a better chance of getting useful players for him if they trade him rather than wait and get draft picks when he goes FA.

    He might be a really attractive pick up for a lot of teams. I bet there is pretty good value to an above average catcher with only a one year commitment at a reasonable price.

    I'd trade him and Freel to Texas for Ian Kinsler.
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    Re: Is Jason LaRue overpaid or just underappreciated?

    LaRue is having a career year for sure, but if you let him lead off an inning, faget about it. This is where we need him the most especially when he bats on the bottom of the order. Is he worth the money, i would say so. Does he call a great game? That is very questionable to say the least.
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    Re: Is Jason LaRue overpaid or just underappreciated?

    I would pay less for a catcher and reallocate the money on pitching.

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    Re: Is Jason LaRue overpaid or just underappreciated?

    Quote Originally Posted by alex trevino
    I would pay less for a catcher and reallocate the money on pitching.
    You mean sort of like they did when they acquired Alex Trevino? Yeah, Alex was a slight step down from the guy before him but no one really noticed the difference.

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    Re: Is Jason LaRue overpaid or just underappreciated?

    As of today the reds have scored 560 runs, good for second in the league behind those other guys in red.

    How much better is Jason LaRue than a bad hitting catcher? 30 runs? Say 40. That's a big difference.

    That would put the reds at 520 runs, which would put them third in the league behind the Braves. This team has enough offense, they can certainly afford a lighter hitting catcher back there.

    Now, would they take the extra 3 million and improve the pitching staff? or would they just pocket it? Would the catcher the bring in/promote actually prevent more runs than LaRue or would it just be mots?

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    Re: Is Jason LaRue overpaid or just underappreciated?

    bump

    Interesting with all the recent Larue trade talk...

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    Re: Is Jason LaRue overpaid or just underappreciated?

    I'd say take your chances with Ross and Valentin (as your platoon) and upgrade the bullpen.

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    Re: Is Jason LaRue overpaid or just underappreciated?

    Someone is always the whipping boy.

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    Re: Is Jason LaRue overpaid or just underappreciated?

    M2, I totally agree with everything you said.

    He is definitely underappreciated. Not only is he pretty darned good at what he does when compared to his peers, he's very low key... he pretty much just quiety goes about his business. Other than the John Deere hat this year, to my knowledge he's never been featured in a Reds promotion... though he's been with the Reds his entire career, they've never given him a bobblehead night.

    He's always been well spoken (for a redneck, I say lovingly) and diplomatic when it comes to the media. He even expressed his disappointment in regard to minimal playing time in a very respectful way, even though you know darned well that he's very very upset over it.

    Will Jason LaRue ever catch again (it's been 9 days)? I certainly hope so, because I miss him. The Reds starting catcher has become the Reds third stringer... I at least expect him to be second on the food chain.
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    Re: Is Jason LaRue overpaid or just underappreciated?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamBoone
    M2, I totally agree with everything you said.

    He is definitely underappreciated. Not only is he pretty darned good at what he does when compared to his peers, he's very low key... he pretty much just quiety goes about his business. Other than the John Deere hat this year, to my knowledge he's never been featured in a Reds promotion... though he's been with the Reds his entire career, they've never given him a bobblehead night.

    He's always been well spoken (for a redneck, I say lovingly) and diplomatic when it comes to the media. He even expressed his disappointment in regard to minimal playing time in a very respectful way, even though you know darned well that he's very very upset over it.

    Will Jason LaRue ever catch again (it's been 9 days)? I certainly hope so, because I miss him. The Reds starting catcher has become the Reds third stringer... I at least expect him to be second on the food chain.
    I like to know what the ERAs of the pitchers that LaRue caught compared to those that David Ross caught.
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    Re: Is Jason LaRue overpaid or just underappreciated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty
    I like to know what the ERAs of the pitchers that LaRue caught compared to those that David Ross caught.
    what difference does it make? They haven't been catching the same pitchers.
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    Re: Is Jason LaRue overpaid or just underappreciated?

    I like LaRue, but I would like to see us get a nice bullpen guy for him, Ross and Valentin are doing really good platooning for us. But I would like to see how LaRue ranks with throwing out runners....I know he has a really strong arm.
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