I want in on that conspiracy too.
I want in on that conspiracy too.
You're barking up the wrong tree. I've long felt that gas prices should have been allowed to adhere to the rate of inflation, much like they have in Europe. Cheap fuel shouldn't be a birthright. Not enough people use mass transit in this country because the artificially low price of fuel makes it affordable not to do so.Originally Posted by registerthis
The cheap fuel has also given us air quality alerts, urban sprawl and decaying central cities, because US citizens have no financial disincentive for a 30-45 minute drive to and from work in a high-mileage, high-pollution vehicle.
$6.00/gallon gas would actually free us from oil company hegemony. But it's painful and unfair to implement it in a society that is built around the premise that fuel costs about $1.25/gallon or less.
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I smell what you're cooking and your theory has merit. But if the demand for hybrid cars is out there, the Big 3 would be suckers not to build them. Just like when the gas crunch started in the 70s. Japan started building fuel efficient cars and people started buying them. Next thing you know the Big 3 started rolling out fuel efficient cars. If they were so set on wanting consumers to buy more gas, they'd still be building the same cars they did in the 60s. People aren't dependent on the Big 3 any more. If Detroit doesn't build a car someone wants, they can always look to Japan, Germany or other countries that make the car they want.Originally Posted by KronoRed
If you'd do a search on this forum, you'd find me advocating a $5/gallon gas tax to force ourselves OFF of the dependancy on oil. I have absolutely no qualms about high fuel costs, mainly because I don't do much driving myself.Originally Posted by Unassisted
My comment, though, was in reference to the need to develop transportation modes that are less reliant on oil and, by default, oil-producing nations. Obviously, a hybrid car that gets hundreds of miles to the gallon is going to significantly decrease the consumption of oil in this country, so in that respect I believe my comments were correct.
We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.
Yes, but "fuel efficient" still necessitated the purchase of fuel frequently, and in vast quantities. The Honda Accord doesn't consume gas like an Edsel, but it still consumes gas.Originally Posted by Chip R
The type of shift we're discussing would put a significant dent into the pockets of the oil companies, who are lining the pockets of politicians and auto executives. If the argument can be made that for years the cost of gas was artificially low, then you could equally say that the demand has been artificially high.
We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.
Also, the holy grail of cars is Hydrogen Fuel cells.
Absolutely no gas needed.
Oil Companies don't want that.
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The very earliest we may see production fuel cell powered cars is at least 15 years down the road.Originally Posted by KronoRed
Hybrids are much more attainable in the near future.
All models are wrong. Some of them are useful.
Good point. It's been too long since I took Economics or I might have thought of that.Originally Posted by registerthis
I think the biggest obstacle to the automakers ramping up hybrid production is the lack of nimbleness in th auto industry. It takes most of a decade to bring new models or significant changes to market and to ramp up production on hybrids would require many suppliers of components for those vehicles to concurrently ramp up their production. None of that can happen with a snap of the fingers.
As Chip said, if a new type of vehicle that sells for a higher price will outsell what the automakers are offering currently, they'd be foolish not to produce it. The rapid increases in the price of fuel are a relatively recent phenomenon in the marketplace, and it will take a few years for the automotive marketplace to shift and react to that. Combine that with the uncertainty that high fuel prices are here to stay and it almost makes one feel sorry for the automakers and the tough choices they face.
/r/reds
(still in conspiracy mode)Originally Posted by paintmered
Slow up the adoption of hybrids, and you can slow up when fuel cell cars arrive and their adoption.
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Wouldn't that be a disaster to the rest of the economy ..... domino effect to goods and services?Originally Posted by registerthis
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Actually heard this one from a gas station guy today. He said the gas prices will keep going up closer to and maybe at $3.00/gallon until Labor Day. After Labor Day the prices should gradually come back down because it is easier for them to make the gas when it isn't so hot.
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I don't buy that but I have no info on if it's true or not.
To me, this is an oil industry pushing the prices higher and higher to see how much the public will accept.
But then I'm still on conspiracy mode
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How much fossil fuel is burned though to charge up the batteries? How long do the batteries last? I hope this idea works, but without more information, it's hard to tell if it really saves fossil fuels, unless the local power plant is nuclear or some alternative generator.
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I read that there are some resolved issues about how long the batteries will last, the cost to replace any batteries that wear out and how to safely dispose of the batteries without environmental problems.Originally Posted by REDREAD
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That's my concern too. I'm not a battery expert, but a lot of batteries contain a lot of heavy metals. I'm not sure that longterm that it helps the environment to convert everyone to batteries. It should definitely be researched, but sometimes these articles spin the issue as if it's a no brainer to convert all cars to batteries. It's more complicated, IMO.Originally Posted by RedsBaron
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
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