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    Re: UC to Huggins: Resign or be fired

    Zimpher will take the money from ticket sales to get some body guards.

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    Re: UC to Huggins: Resign or be fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Serafini
    Winning 20+ games a year is good, but quality of competition does need to be factored in. Winning 20 games against the C-USA teams is like winning 20 against the Atlantic 10 or the Mountain West or other second tier conferences. It's nice, but it's not the same as winning 20 in the Big East or the ACC for instance.
    But even big teams schedule in patsies to help their win total. Syracuse is famous for playing no one tough until Big East play. Also Duke and UNC always play those small local schools for a couple of built in wins (except for Norfolk at UNC a few years ago)they are guaranteed easy games at home in November and December.
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    Re: UC to Huggins: Resign or be fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Serafini
    I agree with you that too much emphasis does get put on tournament finish. I'm a Syracuse fan, I can pretty much guarantee you last year's team will be much more remembered for being upset by Vermont than for being a pretty good team and winning the Big East tournament. But when it happens over and over like it has with Cincinnati, there is something to that.

    Winning 20+ games a year is good, but quality of competition does need to be factored in. Winning 20 games against the C-USA teams is like winning 20 against the Atlantic 10 or the Mountain West or other second tier conferences. It's nice, but it's not the same as winning 20 in the Big East or the ACC for instance.
    That's true but you can't pick your conference. What was Huggins supposed to do when he started at UC, petition the Big 10 to play a round robin against UC? Is it his fault tOSU and UK won't play UC? John Wooden got the vast majority of his wins against the Pac 8 and those teams weren't exactly world beaters. Scheduling is also a 2 way street. You can want to play the Dukes and North Carolinas and Indianas all you want but if they don't want to play you, there isn't much you can do about that. Mid majors have a very difficult time getting the big boys to play them. It's a no win situation for them. They win, big deal, they were supposed to win. If they lose, they shouldn't have lost that game. As conferences get larger, there is less room for non-conference games on the schedule. Many teams are committed to playing smaller in-state schools. UC plays Dayton, Miami and Xavier. Should they drop any or all those 3 in order to schedule someone like Michigan State?
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    Re: UC to Huggins: Resign or be fired

    I hope Huggins doesn't resign, I'd make Queen Nancy fire me.

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    Re: UC to Huggins: Resign or be fired

    Quote Originally Posted by 15fan
    A note the UC folks who are fans of Huggins:

    Outside of the tri-state, Bob Huggins has made your school the punch line to a lot of jokes.

    This is an absolutely necessary move if the University wants to regain any shred of credibility with the rest of the country. It's a move that should have been made 5 or 10 years ago.
    OK, if this is what she's decided to do then fine...but why do this now? Why not wait until after the 2005-06 season is over and have a decent replacement waiting to take over? This seems very ill-conceived and as such does not speak well for the hope of us fans that she really has a plan for the basketball program.

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    Re: UC to Huggins: Resign or be fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds4Life
    I hope Huggins doesn't resign, I'd make Queen Nancy fire me.
    for a million smokes, I'd take the cash and avoid the legal fight.
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    Re: UC to Huggins: Resign or be fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo Cabesa
    for a million smokes, I'd take the cash and avoid the legal fight.
    It's personal, I'm not sure Huggins will give a damn about the $$$$$.

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    Re: UC to Huggins: Resign or be fired

    Be careful what you wish for though. I think Huggins did a good job making UC a competitive team. Most likely, they'll bring in a nice guy and become doormats of the Big East. They will live off of Huggins' remaining recruits for a couple of years possibly, but expect a hard falll in 3 years, unless they can pull a high profile, proven winner coach out of the air quickly.

    IMO, UC is not a joke school outside of Ohio. There's plenty of schools that have just as much or more off field problems with their athletes.

    Yes, the university used Huggins to get into the Big East and sell tickets. But if they think they can ride the Big East affiliation and get good recruits, think again. It's still a decent conference, but it's nothing like it was in the late 80's.
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    Re: UC to Huggins: Resign or be fired

    Folks, why argue Huggins' performance on the court? You're giving Zimpher entirely too much credit if you think his coaching performance affected this decision at all. Her letter and comments recently have never questioned Huggins' coaching ability. To her it's all about character of his players, asst coaches and of Huggs himself.

    As a fan the only thing that's disappointed me is how he can't seem to recruit guys who can stay eligible to play. Every year he has a couple players who either run afoul of the law (Little) or can't get the grades (Banks) then Huggins complains like he did vs Kentucky that he didn't have enough players. He's shorthanded because of the low character guys he recruits and there Zimpher does have a point, yet I'm not sure she sees the connection yet.

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    Re: UC to Huggins: Resign or be fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds4Life
    For those outside of Cincinnati, we don't care what the rest of the country thinks. We'll keep taking our 20+ win seasons, conference titles and repeated NCAA invites.
    As well as the DUI arrests, domestic abuse charges, weapons and drug charges, horrendous graduation rates...

    There are plenty of other schools that accomplish the same things that Huggins has accomplished.

    Some of them even manage to do it with kids and coaches who stay out of jail and earn degrees.

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    Re: UC to Huggins: Resign or be fired

    Quote Originally Posted by 15fan
    As well as the DUI arrests, domestic abuse charges, weapons and drug charges, horrendous graduation rates...

    There are plenty of other schools that accomplish the same things that Huggins has accomplished.

    Some of them even manage to do it with kids and coaches who stay out of jail and earn degrees.
    There have been 2 DUI arrests, Huggins of course, and Keith LeGree. LeGree was AQUITTED after 20 minutes of jury deliberation. Are you aware that one of the Deans that Ms. Zimpher recently hired has also been convinced of DUI? I guess that's ok though, because that person isn't named Bob Huggins.

    In Huggins tenure there have been 21 instances where his players have been arrested/charged/etc, the majority have resulted in acquittals/dismissals or the charges being dropped. Don't see the media reporting that, do you?

    The graduation rates are vastly skewed; don't believe the babble you read in the media.

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    Re: UC to Huggins: Resign or be fired

    15fan. There is plenty of good research done out there that showed that Huggins was doing fine in graduating players. A lot of the problems were because Juco's skewed grad rates. In the last five years Huggins has done a tremendous job graduating players. And about the criminal element it's a shame but it's the risk you take in recruiting big time athletes at the college level. Should Tubby be fired? Or Tressel? It happens at almost every university but Duke. UC get's a bad rap because of the juco kids and the skewed grad rates and the way Huggins looks on the court. Way it is.
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    Re: UC to Huggins: Resign or be fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds4Life
    There have been 2 DUI arrests, Huggins of course, and Keith LeGree. LeGree was AQUITTED after 20 minutes of jury deliberation. Are you aware that one of the Deans that Ms. Zimpher recently hired has also been convinced of DUI? I guess that's ok though, because that person isn't named Bob Huggins.

    In Huggins tenure there have been 21 instances where his players have been arrested/charged/etc, the majority have resulted in acquittals/dismissals or the charges being dropped. Don't see the media reporting that, do you?

    The graduation rates are vastly skewed; don't believe the babble you read in the media.
    I'd think that if anyone could spell "acquitted", it would be a UC basketball fan.

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    Re: UC to Huggins: Resign or be fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw
    The only reason there's a football program that is on the rise is because of the basketball program that was built by Bob Huggins
    On the rise?

    I don't see a program on the rise, other then getting an invite into a Big East that was mainly just desperate for teams.

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    Re: UC to Huggins: Resign or be fired

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed
    On the rise?

    I don't see a program on the rise, other then getting an invite into a Big East that was mainly just desperate for teams.

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