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    Re: Lock up Harang

    Milton was signed because Dan O had cash burning a hole in ahis pocket and he needed to sign someone, Clement told us to take a hike so it was Milton
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    Re: Lock up Harang

    Harang reminds me of a young Chris Carpenter without the big 12-6 curve..
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    Re: Lock up Harang

    Harang's W-L record really is a gift to the team's budget and they should jump on an LTC before he inevitably wins a lot of games thanks to his consistently good pitching and drives up his pricetag.

    Also, any proof you may have needed that Aaron Harang's become a money pitcher was given during a fan Q&A with MLB.com's Anthony Castrovince this week. One female fan wrote in to ask if Harang's available. I don't mean to be cruel, but that ain't because of his looks. She's not asking that question unless he's one heck of a pitcher.
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    Re: Lock up Harang

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    Harang reminds me of a young Chris Carpenter without the big 12-6 curve..
    Let's not get carried away. I like Harang too, but Carpenter throws two totally and completely unhittable pitches for strikes (routinely). I'd love to know what those two pitches are for Harang. Think Matt Morris/good-era Andy Benes when you think of Harang.

    Carpenter's stepped into the elite, where four or five pitchers total in MLB ever reside year in and year out.

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    Re: Lock up Harang

    Looking at Harangs game log this year, he has been pretty damn consistent. He's really only been blown out of the game once this year and even then it was in Boston.

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     Regular Season 		Season to Date
     Date 	Opponent 	Score 	Dec 	IP 	H 	R 	ER 	HR 	BB 	K 	  	W 	L 	SV 	IP 	ERA 	 
     Sep 6 	    MIL 	W 2-1 	- 	6.2 	8 	1 	1 	0 	3 	7 	  	9 	12 	0 	185.0 	3.60 	 
     Sep 1 	   @ HOU 	L 1-3 	L 	7.0 	5 	3 	3 	1 	2 	3 	  	9 	12 	0 	178.1 	3.68 	 
      
     Aug 26 	@ PIT 	W 6-1 	W 	7.0 	7 	1 	1 	0 	1 	5 	  	9 	11 	0 	171.1 	3.68 	 
     Aug 20 	ARI 	L 2-6 	- 	7.0 	6 	1 	1 	0 	1 	3 	  	8 	11 	0 	164.1 	3.78 	 
     Aug 15 	SFO 	L 3-7 	L 	5.0 	9 	4 	2 	2 	2 	7 	  	8 	11 	0 	157.1 	3.89 	 
     Aug 9 	   @ CHC 	W 8-3 	W 	7.0 	8 	3 	3 	1 	0 	3 	  	8 	10 	0 	152.1 	3.90 	 
     Aug 4 	    ATL 	L 4-7 	L 	6.0 	8 	4 	4 	1 	3 	1 	  	7 	10 	0 	145.1 	3.90 	 
      
     Jul 30 	@ SDG 	W 9-1 	W 	8.0 	7 	1 	1 	0 	1 	4 	  	7 	9 	0 	139.1 	3.81 	 
     Jul 25 	@ LAD 	L 0-4 	L 	6.0 	7 	4 	4 	0 	2 	3 	  	6 	9 	0 	131.1 	3.97 	 
     Jul 20 	CHC 	W 9-3 	W 	9.0 	7 	3 	3 	2 	0 	1 	  	6 	8 	0 	125.1 	3.88 	 
     Jul 15 	COL 	W 4-3 	W 	7.0 	3 	1 	1 	0 	1 	7 	  	5 	8 	0 	116.1 	3.95 	 
     Jul 7 	  @ SFO 	L 1-5 	L 	6.0 	4 	3 	2 	1 	1 	8 	  	4 	8 	0 	109.1 	4.12 	 
     Jul 2 	    HOU 	L 3-4 	L 	7.0 	8 	4 	4 	1 	1 	4 	  	4 	7 	0 	103.1 	4.18 	 
     
     Jun 26 	@ CLE 	L 3-4 	- 	6.0 	6 	3 	3 	0 	3 	4 	  	4 	6 	0 	96.1 	4.11 	 
     Jun 20 	STL 	L 1-6 	L 	6.1 	8 	5 	5 	1 	3 	5 	  	4 	6 	0 	90.1 	4.08 	 
     Jun 15 	@ BOS 	L 1-6 	L 	4.2 	9 	5 	5 	0 	3 	7 	  	4 	5 	0 	84.0 	3.86 	 
     Jun 10 	BAL 	L 3-4 	L 	7.0 	5 	3 	3 	1 	2 	10 	  	4 	4 	0 	79.1 	3.52 	 
     Jun 4 	  @ COL 	L 5-7 	L 	5.2 	7 	6 	6 	0 	2 	7 	  	4 	3 	0 	72.1 	3.48 	 
     
     May 30 	@ HOU 	W 9-0 	W 	7.0 	5 	0 	0 	0 	1 	10 	  	4 	2 	0 	66.2 	2.97 	 
     May 20 	CLE 	W 2-1 	W 	7.1 	4 	1 	1 	0 	2 	9 	  	3 	2 	0 	59.2 	3.32 	 
     May 14 	@ PHI 	W 12-4 	W 	8.0 	9 	4 	4 	1 	2 	4 	  	2 	2 	0 	52.1 	3.61 	 
     May 9 	    SDG 	L 5-6 	- 	8.0 	3 	1 	1 	0 	2 	8 	  	1 	2 	0 	44.1 	3.45 	 
     May 3 	    STL 	L 2-4 	L 	7.0 	6 	2 	2 	0 	1 	2 	  	1 	2 	0 	36.1 	3.96 	 
     
     Apr 27 	@ CHC 	L 7-8 	- 	5.0 	9 	4 	4 	1 	1 	3 	  	1 	1 	0 	29.1 	4.30 	 
     Apr 22 	@ FLA 	L 2-4 	- 	6.0 	8 	2 	2 	0 	2 	6 	  	1 	1 	0 	24.1 	3.70 	 
     Apr 17 	HOU 	W 6-5 	- 	6.0 	5 	3 	3 	1 	2 	8 	  	1 	1 	0 	18.1 	3.93 	 
     Apr 12 	@ STL 	L 1-5 	L 	6.0 	5 	5 	5 	2 	3 	2 	  	1 	1 	0 	12.1 	3.65 	 
     Apr 7 	    NYM 	W 6-1 	W 	6.1 	1 	0 	0 	0 	3 	5 	  	1 	0 	0 	6.1 	0.00 	 
     Season Total 	  	              185.0 	177 	77 	74 	16 	50 	146 	  	9 	12 	0 	0 	3.60
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    Re: Lock up Harang

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro
    Looking at Harangs stats this, he has been pretty damn consistent. He's really only been blown out of the game once this year and even then it was in Boston.
    Lucky me, I got to see that one live.

    Actually, while Harang got hit around a bit, had someone played a little defense behind him he might have gotten out of that game without suffering too much damage.
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    Re: Lock up Harang

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    Harang reminds me of a young Chris Carpenter without the big 12-6 curve..
    so Carpenter without his money pitch? yea i'd agree with you, Harang is a very average pitcher

    3 years is fine but no more than 10 mil over that span

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    Re: Lock up Harang

    "Harang's W-L record really is a gift to the team's budget and they should jump on an LTC before he inevitably wins a lot of games thanks to his consistently good pitching and drives up his pricetag."

    Ahhh wins... The best measure of a pitcher's effectiveness. I hope Harang feels this way.

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    Re: Lock up Harang

    Use the search function. This has been brought up at least 2 times this season...


    But yes, a couple of us suggested earlier in the year that this is something the Reds should look into doing.

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    Re: Lock up Harang

    Reinforcement is not a bad thing my friend.

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    Re: Lock up Harang

    It is definately time to sign Harang to a LTC (3 to 4 years). And as soon as the deal was done I would hire a personal trainer for him and physically attach them at the hip for the durration of the offseason.

    Harang is just on the cusp of becoming a true #1 pitcher and I think the difference might be a couple more MPH's on his fastball, which would then setup his change as his true out pitch.

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    Re: Lock up Harang

    Quote Originally Posted by redlegz
    It is definately time to sign Harang to a LTC (3 to 4 years). And as soon as the deal was done I would hire a personal trainer for him and physically attach them at the hip for the durration of the offseason.

    Harang is just on the cusp of becoming a true #1 pitcher and I think the difference might be a couple more MPH's on his fastball, which would then setup his change as his true out pitch.
    His heater's his out pitch. The change is a nice wrinkle, but his bread and butter is going to be a well-placed heavy fastball.

    As for additional MPH, he's already in the best shape of his life (worked like a dog this past offseason). Generally that doesn't make you throw much harder anyway. What it does do is help your fastball sit closer to your maximum velocity and allow you to maintain that velocity later into the game.
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    Re: Lock up Harang

    So....anyone still with me on this???

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    Re: Lock up Harang

    How long did it take you to find this, Kal?

    Well done.

    Sign him up tomorrow, before he is unaffordable.

    4 years....

    20 Mil would be a steal.

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    Re: Lock up Harang

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg
    How long did it take you to find this, Kal?

    Well done.

    Sign him up tomorrow, before he is unaffordable.

    4 years....

    20 Mil would be a steal.
    It's amazing what an unknown Harang is nationally speaking.


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