Reds vs. Phillies - 9/24/05 - How Long Will Milton Last?

[WVRedsFan]

John Erardi was the writer Marty was talking to. He's got a point. Kearns is the best OFer and has the most value of the guys that aren't named Griffey or Dunn. But, that said, I'd try to move Pena. Perhaps a certain GM in our nation's capital values him enough to give up an arm for him. Pena's a 1 trick pony. He has lots of power and that's it. He has speed but if he keeps getting picked off base, what good is that speed? If he got on base like Dunn or Manny that'd be a different story. Like Erardi said, he's never seen a bad OFer turn into a good OFer. They compared him to Kevin Mitchell defensively but Mitch hit for average and power so you could hide his defense in LF. Pena probably won't bring a lot but let him be some one else's project.

Trade anyone for arms. Pena is the likely candidate.

[KronoRed]

Dunn wants 40

[ghettochild]

dunn is 3 ribeyes short of back-to-back 100/100/100 seasons

[flyer85]

It doesn't matter who they trade they won't get a quality proven starting pitcher. It ain't gonna happen.

[WVRedsFan]

It doesn't matter who they trade they won't get a quality proven starting pitcher. It ain't gonna happen.

Agreed--Gotta buy those guys.

[flyer85]

Agreed--Gotta buy those guys.

... gotta grw those guys or trade for them before they blossom. We saw what happens when they tried to "buy" those guys.

[TeamBoone]

I can't remember how this came up, but last night during the game, Hal McCoy said that in August, Aaron Boone returned $750,000 of his salary to the Indians because he said he didn't deserve it.

Wow.

[Ravenlord]

actually, Boonie hasn't done bad since the All-Star Break:

294/350/427

[ghettochild]

cause he's still living off his yankee salary

[Falls City Beer]

actually, Boonie hasn't done bad since the All-Star Break:

294/350/427

And for all that sound and fury, a .695 OPS for the year.

Boy, did we ever job the Yankees on that deal.

[Reds Nd2]

And I sit here listening to Marty scratching his head about Narron not yet being signed because it deters him from making any promises to his players for next year (i.e., Aurilia)

Weavers Second Law

If you don't make promises to your players, you won't have to break them.

[TeamBoone]

cause he's still living off his yankee salary

I think it was a pretty awesome thing to do. I don't remember hearing of anyone ever doing such a thing before... I wish Milton would.

[New Fever]

Pena is only 23 AND people just want to give him up for an arm. Do people realize without the horrible contract, he would be a Top 10 prospect in all of baseball. Compare him to players his age. Teams just don't give players away like that.

[TeamBoone]

Who do you give away?

[New Fever]

I didn't say Pena shouldn't be traded, but he shouldn't be given away. I think you should trade whoever you get the most from between (Kearns, Pena, Dunn, or Casey). Just trading Pena for some guy, is a bad idea, you might as well just keep him if you are going to do that. In baseball you have some teams that just have to wait until you get pitching and hitting at the same time. Mostly done thru the draft. Right now the Reds have the hitting part as we all know and the pitching isn't there yet. Like someone said earlier the only way you get a good to great young pitcher, is getting someone who hasn't made that jump yet or drafting them.