did anyone see the ESPN piece on chad on sunday?
it said a lot on his life and such
anywho i think chad is halarious..he's like TO without the drama, which is what i love.
the golfing dance, HALARIOUS!
did anyone see the ESPN piece on chad on sunday?
it said a lot on his life and such
anywho i think chad is halarious..he's like TO without the drama, which is what i love.
the golfing dance, HALARIOUS!
Give it a rest.Originally Posted by redsfan30
The Bengals finally have a season where they get over .500 - and I'm glad for them - after consistently being at the bottom of the NFL as the losingest franchise for the last decade. SD's Tomlinson, just a few years ago, didn't use Cleveland in his reference/analogy to being a losing franchise. He did use Cincy though.
And we did make the postseason just 3 years ago.
I said it then, that the best the best thing to happen in Cincy was Mike Brown hiring Marvin Lewis and fading into the background, while giving Marvin greater control/influence.
Hiring Savage as their GM, who then hired Crennel, is following the right path in Cleveland. They immediately cleaned house of players with attitudes, which is what Lewis did in Cincy. Both of these coaches are men of character IMO.
Cleveland is on the road to "resurrection". It's gonna happen. Lewis didn't do it immediately in Cincy, and neither wil Crennel.
I don't like excessive celebration on either side of the ball. I liken it to a form of taunting. If players want to mimick TO's antics, then what goes around comes around - and I look forward to those players getting their clocks cleaned someday. And I don't say that simpy about Johnson, but any player who IMO goes overboard. They are askig for it, and someone is gonna accomodate them.
Edwards has hurt us a few times this year in critical games (Indy) where he got nailed with taunting penalties that voided TDs. I hate it!
The game is not about the individual player.
"In my day you had musicians who experimented with drugs. Now it's druggies experimenting with music" - Alfred G Clark (circa 1972)
He took a 2-14 Bengals team to 8-8, in one year. I'm guessing that the Browns lose at least 10 games this year.Lewis didn't do it immediately in Cincy, and neither wil Crennel.
I don't think the Browns will do much in the next few years, unless Charlie Frye ends up being something.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
No one denies that the Bengals had/have better talent then the Browns. A good coach such as Lewis made all the difference.
And we have some talent in Cleveland too. It's all about the type of scheme utilized and built around with those player.
But Brown fans are also realists when it came to this season and the won-loss record. So losing 10 games this year is not a surprise, nor a reflection on what Crennel can/will achieve. We weren't expecting much at all in this department. What we wanted to see was a solid foundation laid with the release of underachieving players and the acquisition of some talented veteran players to start us on the right path. And Savage and Crennel have done that in the off-season. Our offensive line, along with the running and passing game are vastly improved (and without Winslow). We have "holes" to fill; but that is where I have alot more faith in guys like Savage and Crennel over Davis, Clark, and Policy. Savage is a great evaluator of talent and the draft.
And then there is trying to get acclaimated to a 3-4 defense and finding the right personnel. We have already seen that in Davis and Lang.
It won't take a few years for this team to improve. I admit that we do have a problem at QB, which is why we want to see more of Frye in there to see what we have and what/where we need to draft. QB and LB position will be high on Crennel's draft list.I don't think the Browns will do much in the next few years, unless Charlie Frye ends up being something.
Plus, we are 30 Mil under the salary cap going into next year. And we have a owner who is committed to rebuilding this team very quickly and not afraid to spend.
We'll see.
"In my day you had musicians who experimented with drugs. Now it's druggies experimenting with music" - Alfred G Clark (circa 1972)
What Browns fans are you talking to?
Most that I encounter up here bellyache about every little mistake to no end.
They just seem very unreasonable in their expectations for this year. I mean, at the beginning of the season, they said they were going to be reasonable in their expectations, but that has definitely not been the case.
Many are not, IMO, as appreciative of Romeo as they should be.
Last edited by WMR; 11-29-2005 at 08:55 AM.
That sounds just like about any typical fan - including Bengal just a year or two ago.What Browns fans are you talking to?
Most that I encounter up here bellyache about every little mistake to no end.
I visit/post on two other Brown forums (one ran by Kosar's brother). They're no different then this one when it comes to discussing the game and their team.
Most of the Brown fans I hang around with on those other forums and in chat with on gameday sound pretty reasonable when it came to their expectations this year. Sure - you're gonna have that certain percentage, just as you do on this forum, that will bellyache about any and everything. But they are a minority IMO.They just seem very unreasonable in their expectations for this year. I mean, at the beginning of the season, they said they were going to be reasonable in their expectations, but that has definitely not been the case.
If interested, I can turn you onto a couple really good Brown forums where some great talk/discussions go on. One of these forums is ran by Kosar's brother and several former Brown players. Most of the fans, who know anything about the game and are not simply casual fans; but really get involved in the study of the game and understand what needs to done, are very appreciative of Crennel. But you'll have some who will never be satisified. There is always that segment anywhere you go.Many are not, IMO, as appreciative of Romeo as they should be.
Here's one with several different talk forums, depending on the level of the discussion.....
http://browns.scout.com/index.html
"In my day you had musicians who experimented with drugs. Now it's druggies experimenting with music" - Alfred G Clark (circa 1972)
George Teague and Emmitt Smith say
I think the Steelers may just collapse infront of everyone's eyes. They played tense and were coached terribly last night. Cowher has had success because his players believe, I think he may have lost them last night with some stuff.
That being said, if Cowher lets Ben make plays, they can win.
I wouldnt bet on it though...
Nothing to see here. Please disperse.
Sounds like somebody doesn't care for onside kicks to start the 3rd quarter....or going for it on fourth and long with an entire quarter remaining....
...or caling a QB draw on 4th and 4....or not letting your QB take over the game....or letting a punk like Joey Porter cause more havoc before kickoff that after it...
it was a bad night for sure. however, the colts are pretty damn good.
Last edited by deltachi8; 11-29-2005 at 03:12 PM.
Nothing to see here. Please disperse.
... or spewing spit like a malfunctioning water fountain
How can you not love this face?
"In my day you had musicians who experimented with drugs. Now it's druggies experimenting with music" - Alfred G Clark (circa 1972)
There was a funny bit during halftime of MNF a few weeks ago. They were showing Cowher during different supposedly happy times of his life, his wedding, birth of his child, playing with the kids on Christmas, etc. In each picture, they had superimposed this scowl on his face. It was pretty funny.
The opening scene of "Baseketball" had the team scoring a touchdown lining up in a "Riverdance" chorus line.
Might as well go ahead, I guess it's inevitable.
Look at me, look at me, look at me!!!!!!
Strong and silent just doesn't play anymore.
We'll go down in history as the first society that wouldn't save itself because it wasn't cost effective ~ Kurt Vonnegut
NHL Hockey.Strong and silent just doesn't play anymore.
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