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    Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

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    Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada
    Orioles concerned about dealing shortstop with division, however

    Charles Krupa / AP
    The Red Sox have reportedly offered Manny Ramirez and pitcher Matt Clement to the Orioles for Miguel Tejada.

    NBCSports.com news services
    Updated: 2:01 p.m. ET Dec. 29, 2005
    The Boston Red Sox have made a "pretty good offer" to the Baltimore Orioles for disgruntled shortstop Miguel Tejada, the Boston Globe reported Thursday, citing an unnamed source close to the talks.

    The Red Sox, who first offered outfielder Manny Ramirez for Tejada, sweetened the talks by also adding right-hander Matt Clement, the Globe reported.

    Ramirez would have to approve any trade, and the Orioles management is concerned about trading Tejada within the division, the Globe reported.

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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    O's should take it.
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed
    O's should take it.
    Agreed.

    What's Boston got for an OF if that happens? Trot Nixon, when he's healthy, in RF and ... ?

    Andy Marte perhaps, but that's a club that should be in the OF market.
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    Agreed.

    What's Boston got for an OF if that happens? Trot Nixon, when he's healthy, in RF and ... ?

    Andy Marte perhaps, but that's a club that should be in the OF market.

    So M2, - should the Pena-for-Arroyo talks start heating up?
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

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    So M2, - should the Pena-for-Arroyo talks start heating up?
    Perhaps. Mind you, I'd rather deal Kearns (though I'm in the minority on that score).

    Of course, if the Sox are really aching for an OF power hitter then maybe Papelbon's on the block as long as the Reds could send a reliever like Weathers or Mercker along with the bat.
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    Perhaps. Mind you, I'd rather deal Kearns (though I'm in the minority on that score).

    Of course, if the Sox are really aching for an OF power hitter then maybe Papelbon's on the block as long as the Reds could send a reliever like Weathers or Mercker along with the bat.
    Just out of curiosity why are you for Pena than Kearns, do you feel that Pena is more likely to reach his ceiling than Kearns?

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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    Perhaps. Mind you, I'd rather deal Kearns (though I'm in the minority on that score).

    Of course, if the Sox are really aching for an OF power hitter then maybe Papelbon's on the block as long as the Reds could send a reliever like Weathers or Mercker along with the bat.
    Add one more for the keep Wily Mo and trade Kearns first side.

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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    WVRed,

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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    take it and run with it and dont look back

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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    I do not think the O's should take it. They'd be trading away one good contract for two bad ones.

    Even if this was "even money," they'll have a much tougher time finding a shortstop on the open market who's an impact hitter and decent defender.

    I'd like this trade for the Sox, and I've always been one who thought that Tejada was overrated.
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    Problem is the Red Sox create more holes than what it solves.

    Frankly, I think they should send Ramirez and cash back to Cleveland for OF Coca Crisp and infielder Brandon Phillips. Then if I was the Red Sox I would look to sign OF Preston Wilson to possibly play either LF or CF...next to Crisp.
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty
    Problem is the Red Sox create more holes than what it solves.

    Frankly, I think they should send Ramirez and cash back to Cleveland for OF Coca Crisp and infielder Brandon Phillips. Then if I was the Red Sox I would look to sign OF Preston Wilson to possibly play either LF or CF...next to Crisp.
    If I was a Sox fan, I would be really pissed if they did this deal. Sure Coco can play CF, but Brandon Phillips can't even hit AAA pitching.
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    Best scenario:

    Boston trades: Ramirez, Clement, Lester
    Boston receives: Floyd, Tejeda, Gathright.

    Baltimore trades: Tejeda
    Baltimore receives: Clement, Benson and Lugo.

    NY Mets trades: Floyd, Benson, Heilman and OF Diaz
    NY Mets receives: Ramirez, Baez.

    Tampa Bay trades: Lugo, Gathright, Baez
    Tampa Bay receives: Heilman, Lester, Diaz
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili
    I do not think the O's should take it. They'd be trading away one good contract for two bad ones.

    Even if this was "even money," they'll have a much tougher time finding a shortstop on the open market who's an impact hitter and decent defender.

    I'd like this trade for the Sox, and I've always been one who thought that Tejada was overrated.
    IMO Manny Ramirez has a great contract. If you pay it you get Manny Ramirez, who's one of the top five hitters in baseball. The Orioles supposedly have money to spend. Where else are they going to get a top five hitter?

    As for Clement, I don't think there's a problem with his contract if he goes back to his pre-ball-off-the-noggin form.

    The Orioles were 10th in the AL in hitting and pitching last season. Here's two guys that could help improve the club on both fronts. I wouldn't let money that I had on hand prevent me from getting better.
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    Krusty that makes sense. Probably won't happen because it does.

    If I am Baltimore, I take the trade, if BOS kicks in some cash.

    Then if I am the Reds, I explore Kearns to BOS. Having signed Hammond makes it easier to attch Merker to the deal. I too am higher on Pena.
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