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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    Womack... i had hoped that was just gas. DanO really did trade for him.

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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    I have just heard that the Bos - Bal deal was killed, apparently Boston asked for Rodrigo Lopez to be included in the deal, and the O's said thanks but no thanks.

    Can't blame Boston for asking for more...Ramirez and Clement is a heckuva lot to give up for Tejada.
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis
    I have just heard that the Bos - Bal deal was killed, apparently Boston asked for Rodrigo Lopez to be included in the deal, and the O's said thanks but no thanks.

    Can't blame Boston for asking for more...Ramirez and Clement is a heckuva lot to give up for Tejada.
    Here is what Gammons (FWIW) said yesterday at 12:45 PM in the Boston Globe:

    soxfan10: Q: Where are the Red Sox and Orioles at in their trade talks involving Manny and Miguel Tejada?
    PeterGammons: I get the impression that they're stalled. Clearly the Jeromy Burnitz fiasco and most everyone assumes that he failed the physical, complicates the deal because it makes it more difficult for the Orioles to trade an outfielder. It's my understanding that the money issue is a problem. Manny's agent Greg Genkse told me yesterday that the option was not going to be a problem. But the Orioles indicated something different to me. I still think there's a fair chance it happens because the Red Sox want it to happen and David Ortiz is clearly fueling the Tejada fire.
    GammonsisKing: Q: What is your prediction? Who will be starting at SS, 1B, and CF for the Red Sox on opening day?
    PeterGammons: This will be a heck of a guess because I'm sure I'm going to be wrong. At 12:45 p.m. on Jan. 4, I would guess Tejada at SS, Reed in CF, and Youkilis at 1B. But the only one I'm confident of is Youkilis.
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    He's been pimpin' Reed to the Sox all winter, but I don't see why the Mariners would have any interest.

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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    This will be a heck of a guess because I'm sure I'm going to be wrong. At 12:45 p.m. on Jan. 4, I would guess Tejada at SS, Reed in CF, and Youkilis at 1B. But the only one I'm confident of is Youkilis.
    Very wishful thinking from Bosox fan Gammons.
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    The SOSH board is now reporting that Manny has changed his mind and wants to stay in Boston. I'm skeptical, though, because this seems to be the source:

    http://www.goldensombrero.net/
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    Xm radio is reporting it too. I think it's legit.

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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    That Espn deportes article has been translated into English

    http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/story?id=396286
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili
    Xm radio is reporting it too. I think it's legit.

    Manny played all of us. He rules.

    Just Manny being Manny.
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    Quote Originally Posted by RFS62
    Just Manny being Manny.
    Yep. He's a great player but he's a loon. Manny is predictable about being unpredictable. By Spring Training he may want to be traded again.
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    I'm sure the Sox would still love to unload him, especially if it nets them an answer for their holes at SS and in CF.
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    You just don't give away 40+ HRs and 140+ RBIs.
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    You do if you get 30 of those HR's back at a skill position like SS.
    Suck it up cupcake.

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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    I predict Manny will still be "Manny being Manny" long after Tejada starts to have a steroid deterioration, a la Bret Boone, Giambi, Nomar...
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    Re: Report: Sox offer Ramirez, Clement for Tejada

    Manny's agent says a trade "could still happen", but it's probably unlikely at this point. Now that I say that, watch it happen this weekend. Things can change so quickly in baseball. Anyways, with BOS and CHC probably not going for Tejada, at least with the intensity they once had, a couple more suitors have stepped to the forefront: DET and PHI.

    The PHI talk picked up pretty well in the very early morning hours, as it was reported that the O's were interested in Bobby Abreu, who PHI has no problem trading for the "right guy", and that BAL would also want a pretty good young pitcher back. I don't think PHI gives up Cole Hamels or Ryan Madson, but if BAL likes the Tejeda kid that did alright for PHI last year, or Gavin Floyd, who's not quite as highly regarded as he once was, then maybe something could be worked out here.

    DET is interesting, because it seems they're always in on top-level free agents, and get to be "finalists" in some of the bigger trade rumors, but rarely land their man. DET actually has a fair wealth of young pitching, and I heard it said they'd probably be willing to give up Carlos Guillen and a young pitcher or two for Tejada. I think this is quite risky for DET, Tejada may be the type to immediately demand a trade out of there... you know, like he has just done with BAL. I certainly wouldn't give up Carlos Guillen, Nate Robertson and Justin Verlander for him (as I heard somebody speculate this morning) but maybe that's just me. And I seriously doubt DET would offer that up, as desperate as they may be for a "star level" player, and more power in their lineup.

    Just a couple interesting notes to put in there this morning, this has been a pretty good story the last couple of weeks.
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