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    Mine in West Virginia caves, leaving 13 trapped

    I should have posted this yesterday.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060103/...mine_explosion

    TALLMANSVILLE, W.Va. - Rescuers pushed deeper into a mineshaft in a desperate search for 13 trapped coal miners Tuesday, but the prospects of finding anyone alive appeared bleak after holes drilled into the ground yielded deadly levels of carbon monoxide and no signs of life.
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    Gov. Joe Manchin urged West Virginians to "believe in miracles," and added: "It's going to take a miracle, I think."

    The men, trapped 260 feet down by an explosion Monday morning in the Sago Mine, were believed to be about 12,000 feet past the opening of the shaft. By midday Tuesday, more than 30 hours after the blast, rescue teams had penetrated 10,200 feet, working their way on foot for fear machinery might cause volatile gases to explode.

    "We will push forward as quickly as we can as long as there is a shred of hope that we can get our people out safely," said Ben Hatfield, chief executive of mine owner International Coal Group Inc.

    President Bush said the nation was praying for the men, and he offered federal help to bring them out alive. "May God bless those who are trapped below the earth," Bush said from the White House.

    Earlier in the day, rescuers drilled narrow holes into the mine, inserted air monitors and found levels of carbon monoxide more than three times the maximum regarded as safe. Carbon monoxide, a byproduct of combustion, can be lethal.

    Hatfield said it was possible the miners barricaded themselves somewhere and were still alive. But he said: "We are very discouraged by the results of this test."

    There was more discouraging news: A camera was lowered down a 6 1/4-inch hole but spotted no sign of the miners. Also, drilling crews pounded on a steel pipe and listened for a response from the trapped men, but heard nothing, Hatfield said.

    "They repeated this process several times over a 10-minute period, but the drill crew heard no response," Hatfield said.

    Upon hearing the discouraging news, family members retreated to the nearby Sago Baptist Church without making any comments. Hundreds had spent the night huddled in tents or wrapped in blankets in the cool, damp air.

    "That don't sound good," said a red-eyed Donald Marsh, who kept an all-night vigil across from the mine where his half-brother, Jim Bennett, was trapped. Still, Marsh said he was unwilling to let go of all hope.

    "Obviously, it was devastating," said Nick Helms, whose 50-year-old father, Terry, was among the missing. But Helms said his father once told him that mine air tests could be deceiving because safer air could be just a short distance away.

    "My father and every person who goes into that mine knows what they're doing. I'm sure they found a way to stay safe," he said. "I just want to see him again."

    At first, rescue crews moved slowly through the shaft, because they had to stabilize it and repair the roof as they went along. But on Tuesday, officials said, the rescuers realized they had no time to waste and abandoned that approach.

    The Mine Safety and Health Administration had rescue and safety specialists on the scene, set up a command center and brought in a robot capable of exploring areas too dangerous for humans. But the robot was abandoned after it became bogged down in the mud.

    The cause of the explosion about 100 miles northeast of Charleston was under investigation. Coal mine explosions are typically caused by buildups of naturally occurring methane gas. And Manchin spokeswoman Lara Ramsburg said earlier that it may have been sparked by lightning.
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    Re: Mine in West Virginia caves, leaving 13 trapped

    One body has been recovered, this is so sad.
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    Re: Mine in West Virginia caves, leaving 13 trapped

    I know many mining families in both WV and KY...my heart goes out to the miners and the families...they are definitely in my prayers

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    Breaking: 12 Miners Found Alive: Cnn

    There is a God. Finally some good news.

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    Re: Breaking: 12 Miners Found Alive: Cnn

    1 miner is confirmed dead.

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    Re: Breaking: 12 Miners Found Alive: Cnn

    good news!

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    Re: Breaking: 12 Miners Found Alive: Cnn

    Boy, some folks are going to wake up really, really upset.


    I'm sure you'll read of it somewhere else first, but actually, 12 of the 13 are confirmed dead. It was a miscommunication and the families are crushed, pissed, fill-in-the-blank. All we can do is pray for the families and for the only found alive (who is in critical condition) to make it.

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    Re: Breaking: 12 Miners Found Alive: Cnn

    Terrible, terrible news.
    and terrible, terrible, terrible communication and reporting.
    TALLMANSVILLE, W.Va. - In a stunning and heartbreaking reversal, family members were told early Wednesday that 11 of 12 trapped coal miners found were dead three hours after they began celebrating news that they were alive.

    The devastating new information shocked and angered family members, who had rejoiced with Gov. Joe Manchin hours earlier when a rumor began to spread that the miners were alive. Rescue crews found the first victim earlier Tuesday evening.

    "About the confusion, I can't tell you of anything more heart-wrenching than I've ever gone through in my life. Nothing," Manchin said.

    The sole survivor of the disaster, identified by mining officials as 27-year-old Randal McCloy, was hospitalized in critical condition early Wednesday, a doctor said. When he arrived, he was unconscious but moaning, the hospital said.

    "It's sorrow beyond belief," International Coal Group Chief Executive Officer Ben Hatfield said during a news conference.

    Thirteen miners had been trapped 260 feet below the surface of the Sago Mine since an explosion early Monday. The mine is located about 100 miles northeast of Charleston. As rescue workers tried to get to the men, families waited at the Sago Baptist Church during an emotional two-day vigil.

    But late Tuesday night, families began streaming out of the church, yelling "They're alive!" The church's bells began ringing and families embraced, as politicians proclaimed word of the apparent rescue a miracle.

    As an ambulance drove away from the mine carrying what families believed was the first survivor, they applauded, not yet knowing there were no others.

    Though the governor announced that there were 12 survivors, he later indicated he was uncertain about the news. As word buzzed through the church of survivors, he tried to find out what was going on, he said.

    "All of a sudden we heard the families in a euphoric state, and all the shouting and screaming and joyfulness, and I asked my detachments, I said, 'Do you know what's happening?' Because we were wired in and we didn't know," Manchin said.

    Hatfield blamed the wrong information on a "miscommunication." The news spread after people overheard cell phone calls, he said. In reality, rescuers had only confirmed finding 12 miners and were checking their vital signs. At least two family members in the church said they received cell phone calls from a mine foreman.

    "That information spread like wildfire, because it had come from the command center," he said.

    Three hours later, Hatfield told the families that "there had been a lack of communication, that what we were told was wrong and that only one survived," said John Groves, whose brother Jerry Groves was one of the trapped miners.

    "There was no apology. There was no nothing. It was immediately out the door," said Nick Helms, son of miner Terry Helms.

    Chaos broke out in the church and a fight started. About a dozen state troopers and a SWAT team were positioned along the road near the church because police were concerned about violence. A Red Cross volunteer, Tamila Swiger, told CNN people were breaking down and suffering panic attacks.

    Company officials waited to correct the information until they knew more about the rescue, Hatfield said.

    "Let's put this in perspective. Who do I tell not to celebrate? I didn't know if there were 12 or 1 (who were alive)," Hatfield said.

    The explosion was the state's deadliest mining accident since November 1968, when 78 men including the uncle of Gov. Joe Manchin died in an explosion at Consol's Farmington No. 9 mine in Marion County, an hour's drive north of here. Nineteen bodies remain entombed in the mountain. It was that disaster that prompted Congress to pass the Mine Health and Safety Act of 1969.

    It was also the worst nationwide since a pair of explosions tore through the Jim Walter Resources No. 5 mine in Brookwood, Ala. on Sept. 23, 2001, killing 13.

    Federal Department of Labor officials promised an investigation. Acting Assistant Secretary David Dye, who heads the Mine Safety and Health Administration, said it will include "how emergency information was relayed about the trapped miners' conditions."

    The 12 miners were found together behind a barrier they had constructed to block carbon monoxide gas. They were found near where the company had drilled an air hole early Tuesday in an attempt to contact the men.

    The miners had stretched a piece of fabric across an area about 20 feet wide to block out the gas, Hatfield said. The fabric is designed for miners to use as a barrier. Each miner had carried a breathing apparatus and had been able to use it, according to mining officials.

    The hole also was used to check air quality in the mine, which revealed high concentrations of carbon monoxide. The odorless, colorless gas can be lethal at high doses. At lower levels, it can cause headaches, dizziness, disorientation, nausea, fatigue and brain damage.

    Manchin, who had earlier said that the state believed in miracles, tried to focus on the news that one had survived.

    "We're clinging to one miracle when we were hoping for 13," he said.

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    Associated Press writers Vicki Smith, Allen G. Breed and Mark Williams in Tallmansville contributed to this report.

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    Re: Breaking: 12 Miners Found Alive: Cnn

    I stayed up until 2 a.m. watching the CNN reports, feeling the joy of the families who thought their loved ones were alive. I couldn't believe it this morning. Absolutely unfathomable what those people are going through.

    This hits especially close to home for me. Growing up in southern West Virginia, many of my family and friends work/have worked in the coal mines both there and in neighboring Eastern Kentucky.

    My personal toll: One uncle killed in a mine accident, another permanently disabled in one. A grandfather who died of black lung, and a best friend's dad disabled in an accident.

    I think I'm going to be sick this morning.
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    Re: Breaking: 12 Miners Found Alive: Cnn

    It's terrible either way. I think people just wanted good news so bad they didn't fully think it out before spreading news. Nobody would lie on purpose though, serves nobody.
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    Re: Breaking: 12 Miners Found Alive: Cnn

    Very sad news. Despite all the advances in technology, mining is still a very dangerous job.

    My local paper, The Dayton Daily News, has a huge headline on the frontpage this morning that reads "They're Alive!". But I have learned not to trust everything I hear or read. I am not sure how the wrong news got out, but I know that a lot of media sources like to be first with news (rather than accurate).

    The mining company involved here had better hope they are not responsible for the explosion that started all this. Seems as though they have a lot of violations in the past and their mines have been shutdown quite a few times for unsafe conditions.
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    Re: Mine in West Virginia caves, leaving 13 trapped

    12 of the miners are now confirmed dead, one is in critical condition.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060104/...mine_explosion
    TALLMANSVILLE, W.Va. - In a stunning and heartbreaking reversal, family members were told early Wednesday that 12 of 13 trapped coal miners found were dead three hours after they began celebrating news that they were alive.
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    The devastating new information shocked and angered family members, who had rejoiced with Gov. Joe Manchin hours earlier when a rumor began to spread that 12 miners were alive. Rescue crews found the first victim earlier Tuesday evening.

    "They knew the odds that were against us, and with that, to have the ending as it did with this high euphoria, I can only say there was no one who did anything intentionally other than risk their lives to save their loved ones," Manchin told ABC's "Good Morning America."

    The sole survivor of the disaster, identified by mining officials as 27-year-old Randal McCloy, was hospitalized in critical condition early Wednesday, a doctor said. When he arrived, he was unconscious but moaning, the hospital said.

    Charles Green, McCloy's father-in-law, told ABC that McCloy was suffering from hypothermia and was on a ventilator, but didn't suffer any broken bones. There was no carbon monoxide in his body, he said, despite concerns about high levels of carbon monoxide inside the mine.

    When he found out his son-in law was the only survivor, "I was still devastated," he said. "My whole family's heart goes out to them other families."

    Thirteen miners had been trapped 260 feet below the surface of the Sago Mine since an explosion early Monday. The mine is located about 100 miles northeast of Charleston. As rescue workers tried to get to the men, families waited at the Sago Baptist Church during an emotional two-day vigil.

    But late Tuesday night, families began streaming out of the church, yelling "They're alive!" The church's bells began ringing and families embraced, as politicians proclaimed word of the apparent rescue a miracle.

    As an ambulance drove away from the mine carrying what families believed was the first survivor, they applauded, not yet knowing there were no others.

    Though the governor announced that there were 12 survivors, he later indicated he was uncertain about the news. As word buzzed through the church of survivors, he tried to find out what was going on, he said.

    "All of a sudden we heard the families in a euphoric state, and all the shouting and screaming and joyfulness, and I asked my detachments, I said, 'Do you know what's happening?' Because we were wired in and we didn't know," Manchin said.

    International Coal Group Chief Executive Officer Ben Hatfield blamed the wrong information on a "miscommunication." The news spread after people overheard cell phone calls, he said. In reality, rescuers had only confirmed finding 12 miners and were checking their vital signs. At least two family members in the church said they received cell phone calls from a mine foreman.

    "That information spread like wildfire, because it had come from the command center," he said.

    Three hours later, Hatfield told the families that "there had been a lack of communication, that what we were told was wrong and that only one survived," said John Groves, whose brother Jerry Groves was one of the trapped miners.

    "There was no apology. There was no nothing. It was immediately out the door," said Nick Helms, son of miner Terry Helms.

    Chaos broke out in the church and a fight started. About a dozen state troopers and a SWAT team were positioned along the road near the church because police were concerned about violence. Witnesses said one man had to be wrestled to the ground when he lunged for mining officials.

    Company officials waited to correct the information until they knew more about the rescue, Hatfield said.

    "Let's put this in perspective. Who do I tell not to celebrate? I didn't know if there were 12 or one (who were alive)," Hatfield said.

    The explosion was the state's deadliest mining accident since November 1968, when 78 men including the uncle of Manchin died in an explosion at Consol's Farmington No. 9 mine in Marion County, an hour's drive north of here. Nineteen bodies remain entombed in the mountain. It was that disaster that prompted Congress to pass the Mine Health and Safety Act of 1969.

    It was also the worst nationwide since a pair of explosions tore through the Jim Walter Resources No. 5 mine in Brookwood, Ala. on Sept. 23, 2001, killing 13.

    Federal
    Department of Labor officials promised an investigation. Acting Assistant Secretary David Dye, who heads the Mine Safety and Health Administration, said it will include "how emergency information was relayed about the trapped miners' conditions."

    The 12 miners were found together behind a barrier they had constructed to block carbon monoxide gas. They were found near where the company had drilled an air hole early Tuesday in an attempt to contact the men.

    The miners had stretched a piece of fabric across an area about 20 feet wide to block out the gas, Hatfield said. The fabric is designed for miners to use as a barrier. Each miner had carried a breathing apparatus and had been able to use it, according to mining officials.

    The hole also was used to check air quality in the mine, which revealed high concentrations of carbon monoxide. The odorless, colorless gas can be lethal at high doses. At lower levels, it can cause headaches, dizziness, disorientation, nausea, fatigue and brain damage.

    Manchin, who had earlier said that the state believed in miracles, tried to focus on the news that one had survived.

    "We're clinging to one miracle when we were hoping for 13," he said.

    ___

    Associated Press writers Vicki Smith, Allen G. Breed and Mark Williams in Tallmansville contributed to this report.
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    Re: Breaking: 12 Miners Found Alive: Cnn

    In defense of the media, the information CNN and everyone else was getting came from the family themselves. When your paper went to press, that was the story. It didn't change until later in the morning.
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    Re: Breaking: 12 Miners Found Alive: Cnn

    I am not at all thrilled with the news media coverage. Fox News and CNN both are more focused on trying to find out whos fault it is rather than reporting it.

    One of the women from the church that was interviewed said that when Manchin broke the news that there was only one alive, someone rushed to attack him and that Manchin was screaming at them.

    My heart goes out to the families involved and I hope the one survivor makes it.
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    Re: Mine in West Virginia caves, leaving 13 trapped

    Sad news indeed.


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