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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Perhaps it's less a question of his credibility, but his writing style that seems to set some off. Not really sure. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Boy, I go to bed and the #$@% hits the fan... I can sum up this thread in one phrase...

    "There is a fine line between envy and jealousy."
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    I for one dont post a lot but do view this board daily! Most of the time anything TEAM CLARK posts is of much interest! Sure beats half these other posts about WHAT IF,S . What if we trade this guy for this guy or this guy . All these so called dream trades seem to be the majority of the posts on this board !! Sure hate to see a guy getting ripped like Team Clark is on this post . Keep up the good work Team Clark!! youre posts are of utmost interest.A little inside info sure beats these post of so called REDS fans who just cant wait to bash the REDS and everything they mean to TRUE REDS FANS!!!!

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    Greatly appreciated. Thanks for all of the support.

    I have said many time that Baseball is all about Disagreement. If it were not we would have one team. How fun would that be to watch intrasquad games 162 times?

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    I think the line between fan and insider blurs sometimes, and thats when the trouble starts. IMO you should be a little more vigilant about when you are being a fan, and when you are dishing out some inside info.

    I appreciate the inside scoops.

    GL

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    GL... you are probably right. I'll try that. We need to hook up for a few Dragons games...

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    As long Team Clark posts what he believes is the truth, to the best of his knowledge, then this discussion of ethics is totally moot. I'm really not sure why this is even an issue: the Reds are public figures. They bought this bill of goods when they became "stars." If you don't wish to believe him, be skeptical. That's YOUR right.

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    If you read my port you will find that I do not question your credentials. What bugs me I guess is the feeling that you give that you are on the inside of everything happenning with the reds. I also don't much like it when you imply that you know more but can't say it.

    This bugs me about other reporters too. Many ifnot most of your posts are entertaining, and our friend RFS62 has a great deal of respect for you. But I do think a reporter should be clear when he is expressing an opinion and when he is stating facts.

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    Geo you are probably right. I usually do know a lot more than I can say. I try to tell this board as much as I can within reason. I'll re draw the line to make things more clear in the future.

    As for having something to say about everything that goes on.... well maybe I do. Being a HUGE Reds fan on top of everything else and having several players and a few front office personnel as friends I hear a lot more than most writers do. I know where that line is drawn in that respect.

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    Why is it one of the few members who can supply us with credible inside information is being attacked in this way. Lay off- TC's information has alway's come off as being accurate, and interesting. I am thankful he continues to post, despite the BS he has to go through every so often.

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    Geo we should call this one a draw. You can wrestle me some other time. <img border="0" alt="[Laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh.gif" />

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    Well, I've tried to stay out of this one and watch how it plays out.

    Many of my very best friends here at RedsZone have expressed their thoughts on this thread.

    It appears to me to be all about perspectives.

    BCubb, a great guy and a professional editor, looks at it from his background as a journalist and asked questions in that vein.

    Geo J, another great guy and a former AAA player, looks at it as a player who feels that the sanctity of the clubhouse is being compromised.

    Those of us who yearn for every single scrap of inside info we can get from the Reds are very happy to hear Team Clark's stories.

    I've always looked at RedsZone as a great sports bar. If we're sitting around, watching a game together, tossing back a few cold ones, and we hear Geo J's old stories of the Big Red Machine, or Team Clark's stories of things he's witnessed in his job, well... it doesn't get much better than that for the avid fan.

    But the internet blurs the distinction between casual conversation among friends and world wide publication of things that editors keep out of the papers for a variety of reasons.

    Team Clark walks a fine line, and he's told me things that were extremely interesting, but would be professional suicide if he posted them here or on his website. It seems to me to be a tough thing to decide where that line should be drawn. Sometimes the things he posts shock us, but are well known throughout the baseball world, and he's surprised when they draw negative backlash from concerned RedsZoners.

    We have so many different types of posters here. Historians, former players and coaches, current members of the media, and yes, even a few current and former Reds.

    Team Clark is often the cuyanne pepper in our RedsZone gumbo... too spicy for some, just right for others. I really hope that we can work out our differences and get along. I know he can take it as well as he can dish it out... my only fear is that great guys like Geo J and Team Clark and others who have taken exception to TC's posts from time to time can bury the hatchet and contribute on one anothers threads without being uncomfortable. There is such a wealth of knowledge and experience there to draw on, and I for one don't want to miss out on hearing everything I can from both of them.

    I do find one thing incredibly ironic about TC and Geo J tangling... I can't think of any two people here who are so exactly alike in their thoughts about Jim Bowden. Heck, I figured they were long lost cousins when I first read TC's analysis of Jimbo.

    Viva la difference, and let's go out and cheer for Jose the Magnificant today.
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    Not really trying to argue, but just to temper the prospective a little. Peace!!!!!!! Team Clark. A problem I have when I know a lot about something is that I forget that I don't know everything about it.

    Over the years one of the few facts in life I have found is that no matter what there is something about Everything I don;t know and that everyone knows something about anything that I do not know.

    This coupled with the fact that on most things I know very little Makes me state that things are either my belief or my opinion.

    I find that particularly when My "facts" depends on the actions of others, they often become false beliefs.

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    "A sports bar...with cuyanne pepper" now that's a mental picture that fits perfectly. I envy most of you being able to meet on various occasions. Being out on the left coast doesn't give me the oportunity to know more than your computer names but my opinion is this:

    I go nowhere else to find out the latest and greatest Red's news. What I read here I do not take as bible, but I read other sources and compare. Amazingly enough, the 'rumors' and 'insight' here tends to be true. Now I'm not saying that is all due to TC, but the collection of basball minds here tend to be able to predict and surmise the interweavings of MLB. Do I care about credentials? No. But then again, baseball is not and was not my livelyhood.

    Geo and TC, you both are well respected here and I enjoy both points of view. I look forward to watching this come to a peaceful conclusion.

    <small>[ 04-21-2002, 12:47 PM: Message edited by: Az Red ]</small>
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    The premise that Team Clark has more readers than
    the Enquirer and the DDN is complete and utter
    bullsh*t.

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    Did I say I had more readers than the Enquirer??? ...No. I said we were closing in on the Enquirer. I named the Post and DDN. See you just do not read.

    Here are the links to the DDN and CINCINNATI Post's statistics through Sept, 2001.
    <a href="http://uspolitics.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fabcas1.accessabc.com %2Fecirc%2F" target="_blank">POST</a>
    <a href="http://uspolitics.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fabcas1.accessabc.com %2Fecirc%2F" target="_blank">DDN</a>

    I provided my statistics above. Also, if the link does not automotaically take you to the stats go to Newspapers and type in the city.

    <small>[ 04-21-2002, 03:14 PM: Message edited by: Team Clark ]</small>


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