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    Jensen Lewis of Anderson High School was just drafted by the Indians. He is commited to Vandy, but he might decide to go play anyways. I can't wait to watch my Redskins and Jensen beat up on Milford Friday though.

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    I have a few questions regarding the article about Chris Gruler. It says in the article posted by RF62 that the Reds are going to pay $160,000 for his education at Arizona State:

    Early in the article, it says he accepted a "free ride" at Arizona.

    "By the end of his junior year, the 6-foot-3, 210-pound right-hander had received more than 3,000 letters from colleges and had 40 Division I offers. He eventually accepted a full-ride offer from Arizona State."

    "Gruler said the Reds also will pay for his education at Arizona State, worth another $160,000. He plans to start school in two years or so."

    Soooooo:

    1) If he has a "free ride", why are the Reds going to pay for his college education at Arizona?

    2) And, if he's going to college, why is he waiting for another "two years or so" to do so?

    3) Does that mean he's going to play in the Reds minor league system, take a few years off, and then come back to the minor league system?

    - If yes, it'll take him forever to make the majors, won't it?

    - If no, than I don't get it.

    Help?

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    He would have had that "free ride" if he didn't turn pro, TB.

    As a pro baseball player, which he is now, he's inelligible for college baseball, thus no more scholarship.
    "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
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    Ahhhh, thanks RF. But that only answers part of it. Keep going....
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    Many players will take classes in the off-season. Hopefully this won't happen. But if he blows his arm out in 4 years, he could theoretically be half way to a bachelor's degree simply by taking classes from late September through January.

    It is common for baseball teams to offer full tuition to their high school draftees (I'm not sure if it's all draftees or just ones from certain rounds). But my understanding is that if Scott Gruler became bored from baseball in a couple years, and decided to retire, the Reds would be on the hook for 100% of the expense for him to go out and get a bachelor's degree... whether that degree is at an in-state school or Harvard.

    Anyone know more about this?
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    885 JUSTIN KNOFF SIENA COL RHP R/R 6'4" 195 06/22/1981 4YR

    COMMENT: Tall with long, slender arms and legs, like Jack McDowell. Fastball is 89-91 with late sink and side tail. Good late bite on 11-to-5 curve. Gets sink and tail on circle change. Type of arm to learn slider. Aggressive and durable.



    915 MAYQUE QUINTERO NO SCHOOL RHP R/R 6'2" 225 04/19/1978 NS

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    945 GERALD SMITH THOMAS JEFFERSON HS RF L/R 0'0" 0 10/11/1983 HS

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    975 BARTON BRAUN DIABLO VALLEY LHP L/L 5'10" 150 02/08/1982 JR

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    1005 CODY MCALLISTER SNOHOMISH HS RHP R/R 6'3" 185 03/21/1984 HS

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    1035 STANTREL SMITH TOWERS HS CF R/R 0'0" 0 10/21/1983 HS

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    1065 MATT KRIMMEL GEORGE WASHINGTON U 3B L/R 6'3" 220 09/26/1980 4YR

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    1095 SHAWN AICHELE WESTERN HILLS HS RHP R/R 6'1" 215 10/27/1982 HS

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    1125 HARDY HUTTO GARDEN CITY CC RHP R/R 6'3" 210 07/14/1982 JR

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    1155 CALVIN MEDLOCK WESTBURY HS RHP R/R 5'10" 175 11/08/1982 HS 56k | 300k

    COMMENT: Small-medium frame, wiry, slender, athletic build. Extremely long arms for size and body type, similar to Mariano Rivera. Overhand-to-three-quarter delivery. Quick, live easy arm action. Throws downhill, sneaky, quick fastball (87-88) with occasional hard tail, downward sink. Still 87-90 in 7th inning. Ball jumps out of hand. Signs of tight, quick, down-breaking curve.



    1185 CHRISTOPHER BELL MIAMI DADE NORTH JC RHP R/R 6'2" 200 09/24/1980 JR

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    1215 MARCUS TOWNSEND U TEXAS RF R/R 6'3" 200 04/20/1982 4YR

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    1245 DANIEL KELLY DURANGO HS SS R/R 6'2" 185 07/14/1984 HS

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    chili -

    Was your statement "Hopefully this won't happen" in regards to the kid taking college classes, or blowing out his arm?

    If it's the latter, I obviously agree whole-heartedly with you. But if it's the former, I've got big problems...

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    The Reds just got an outfielder from the University of Incarnate Word (it's in San Antonio). Give the scouts credit for turning over every stone, if nothing else.

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    Round 48 Brings us the possible return of Travis Wong

    1275 DEREK HAWK MENDOCINO CC RHP R/R 6'4" 175 11/13/1982 JR

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    1303 JASON BACA SWEENY HS RHP R/R 6'3" 200 11/22/1983 HS

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    1331 DENNIS LEDUC CUESTA COL RHP R/R 6'4" 195 04/05/1982 JR

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    1358 TROY CAIRNS U NEW MEXICO SS R/R 5'11" 155 09/29/1980 4YR

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    1384 MICHAEL BRYANT SAM RAYBURN HS RHP R/R 6'6" 205 11/09/1983 HS

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    1410 TRAVIS WONG TEXAS A&M 1B R/R 6'6" 235 08/28/1981 4YR

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    Wow! I think we drafted Wong high a few years back (13th round?) and now he's at the bottom. He has the option to go back to Texas A & M for one more year. I wonder if they offer him that 13th round money again?

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    Some more info on draftees

    Round 36
    Matt Krimmel
    Class:Senior
    Hometown:Schnecksville, PA
    Height / Weight:6-4 / 220
    Position:Infield
    Birthdate:09/26/1980
    Bats/Throws:L/R

    AT GW: Will be a team captain for the second consecutive season...will bat third and play third base...Second Team All-Atlantic 10 last season...led the team in runs scored with 55...tied for the team lead with 78 hits...second on the team with a .361 batting average...third on the team with 12 doubles...finished third on the team with a .342 batting average in 2000 despite missing 24 games with a broken finger...batted .337 as a freshman and recorded 13 multi-hit games, including a 5-for-6 performance vs. UMBC on 4/13/99 and a 4-for-5 performance versus Navy the following day.

    HIGH SCHOOL: Allentown Morning Call All-Area team as a senior...Lehigh Valley Carpenter Cup champions senior year....432 batting average...seven home runs...30 RBIs...leading boys basketball scorer in school history.

    PERSONAL: Born September 26, 1980 in Allentown, PA...son of John and Catherine Krimmel...has an older brother, Daniel (23)...enjoys basketball, weightlifting and traveling...finance major.

    Year AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB
    1999 .337 49 166 31 56 15 1 3 28 15 42 0
    2000 .342 35 114 38 39 7 0 6 26 22 22 4
    2001 .361 58 216 58 78 7 1 5 49 31 39 11
    Career .346 142 496 127 173 29 2 14 103 68 103 15

    Round 48
    Travis Wong
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    6-5 • 225 • Jr-2L • Bats/Throws: R/R
    Boise, Idaho (Timberline)
    Power-hitting first baseman with an imposing physical stature ... hit .342 with three home runs and eight doubles last season ... slugging percentage of .557 was the highest on the club last season ... was 3-for-4 against Penn State (4/4/01) and drove in a career-high four runs against Oklahoma State (4/21/01) ... played for the Aloha Knights in Portland Ore., this summer ... saw action at first base or as the team’s DH in 42 games in the 2000 season while starting 29 ... posted three-hit games against Arizona (2/19/00) and Rice (4/18/00) ... had three RBI against Arizona (2/19/00) ... hit home runs against Texas Tech (3/12/00) and Sam Houston (4/25/00) ... was a key cog for the USA Junior National Team that won the gold medal in the Junior World Championships in Kaohsiung, Taiwan, his greatest athletic thrill to date ... he hit .320 with two home runs and six RBI ... had a single and a home run against Japan in a 6-3 victory that ended in the seventh inning when a transformer blew and half of the field went dark ... hit the game-winning home run in the top of the eighth in the semifinal game against Cuba, 3-2 ... lettered his sophomore year in baseball at Boise High School before moving to Timberline High ... earned two baseball letters at Timberline for coach Larry Price ... won three Idaho State Baseball Championships ... selected All-Conference all three years and was the conference MVP his senior year ... earned All-State accolades after his senior season ... hit home runs for the cycle with a solo shot, two-run, three-run homer and a grand slam in one game ... was drafted in the 1999 MLB amateur draft in the 13th-round by the Cincinnati Reds ... enjoys playing golf and fishing ... his father attended Texas A&M ... brother Jerrod played in the Atlanta Braves organization for four years ... born in Austin, Texas on August 28, 1981 ... son of Doug and Cathy Wong of Boise, Idaho ... sociology major.

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    Year BA G-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI
    2000 .282 42/29 117 12 33 7 0 2 14
    2001 .342 31/20 79 14 27 8 0 3 17
    Career .306 73/49 196 26 60 15 0 5 31

    Year TB Slug% BB HBP SO OB% SF-SH SB-SBA
    2000 46 .393 4 8 25 .344 2-0 0-0
    2001 44 .557 1 4 15 .376 1-1 0-0
    Career 90 .459 5 12 40 .356 3-1 0-0

    Round 30
    Justin Knoff
    Class:Junior
    Hometown: Burlington, N.J.
    Height / Weight:6-4 / 180
    Position:Pitcher
    Birthdate:06/22/1981
    B/T:R/R

    GENERAL: Hard-working right hander with the best movement on the staff. Developed into Rossi’s top set-up man out of the bullpen. Improved tremendously in off-season. Hard, sharp curve ball is a good compliment to moving fastball.

    STRENGTHS: Movement, Velocity, Confidence.

    IN THE SUMMER OF 2001: Played for the Maryland Orioles. The showcase team played in a variety of leagues

    AS A SOPHOMORE: Limited opponents to a .247 batting average (second on team) and MAAC foes to just .232. His 3.92 overall ERA was fourth best on the team and his conference mark of 2.55 ERA is the best on the squad. Recorded four times as many ground ball outs as fly balls. Posted 5.8 strikeouts per nine innings in MAAC games and was second on the team with 16 appearances. Did not allow an earned run in 6.1 innings of work at national powerhouse Louisiana-Lafayette.

    IN THE SUMMER OF 2000: Played for the Geneva Redlegs of the Northeastern Collegiate Baseball League, where he was named to the 2000 All-Star game at Rome’s Larry DeLutis Field.

    AS A FRESHMAN: Saw action in nine games. Best performance came at Cornell when he pitched five innings, struck out two and allowed only two runs.

    IN HIGH SCHOOL: 1999 Philadelphia Inquirer Player to Watch. Led Holy Cross to South Jersey Finals as a junior with two playoff complete games.

    ROSSI ON KNOFF: “Justin is coming off a solid summer and if he is consistent he will fight for a spot in the rotation. He was an impact player out of the bullpen last season and could develop into a dominant pitcher in the league.”

    YEAR G GS CG IP H R ER BB SO W-L ERA PCT.
    2000 9 3 1 34.2 47 35 30 20 18 0-2 7.79 .000
    2001 16 4 0 43.2 41 27 19 23 21 4-2 3.92 .667
    TOT 25 7 1 78.1 88 62 49 43 39 4-4 5.63 .500

    Round 46
    Troy Cairns •9
    •2B •Jr-2L •6-0 •160
    Blue Springs HS/Blue Springs, Mo.

    Troy is a two-year starter who has been named all-conference in both his freshman and sophomore seasons... very smooth in the field with great range and a strong arm... he and SS Dusty Young helped UNM turn a league-leading 65 double plays a year ago... a very good contact hitter who has struck out an average of once every 9 AB (52K/ 484 AB) for his career... not heavily recruited by Division I teams out of high school, and coaching staff considers him a steal... played summer ball in Jayhawk League... had a productive fall, hitting .298 with 8 doubles in 57 AB during UNM's intrasquad games... 2001... named first team all-Mountain West at 2B... tied for team lead with a .349 average, which was also T7th in the league... led the Mountain West in at bats (275), doubles (26), hits (96) and assists (179)... the at-bats established a school record... was T2nd with 6 triples... tied a school record with 2 3B vs. S. Utah (2/12)... also stole a career-high 12 bases... led UNM with 27 multi-hit games (including 5 of 4 or more) and had 7 multi-RBI games... hit team-highs of .448 with runners in scoring position and .402 with runners on base... 28 K in 275 AB or one in just under every 10 AB... started all 60 games at 2B... had first career 5-hit game (5-5) vs. SUU (2/11), and went 9-10 in 2 game series vs. Thunderbirds... had a pair of 10-game hitting streaks, and hit safely in 24 of last 26 games... hit safely in 51 of 60 contests overall... hit a career-best 2 HR (vs. Miami (Oh) & Utah)... was named MWC player of the week (4/4) after going 9-16 (.563) with 7 R in a three-game series vs. Air Force... MWC Tournament... 6-19 (.316) with 4 runs, 2 2B and a 3B... 2000 (Freshman)... named second team all-MWC... led UNM with 6 triples (T2nd in MWC) and led the league with 160 assists at 2B... started 53 of 55 games, including all 30 MWC contests... hit .352 in conference games (43-122), after batting just .253 (22-87) in non-league affairs... tied a school record with 2 triples vs. AFA (4/16)... had 19 multi-hit games and 8 multi-RBI games... had a season-high 7-game hitting streak (4/7-22), in which he went 12-28 (.429)... had a season-high 4 hits vs. AFA (4/15), also scoring 3 runs and driving in 3... had a career-high 4 RBI in win over UNLV (4/28), including a double and his first career HR... had a 2-game stretch vs. NMSU (2/11-12) in which he had 8 walks (4 per game) and scored 5 runs... owned Air Force, going 13-24 (.542) in seven games on the season... MWC Tournament... outstanding tournament, going 6-12 (.500) with 2 hits in each game... scored 3 runs and 3 RBI in 17-3 first round win over AFA (5/17)... High School... was a three-year letterwinner for coach Richard Wood at Blue Springs South HS in Blue Springs, Mo... as a senior, hit .700 with four homers and was named team MVP and first team all-state... Personal... born on September 29, 1980, in Minneapolis, Minn... son of Paul and Sue Cairns... major is Communications.

    Round 50
    Ben Himes
    Outfielder
    6-5 • 220 • Jr-1L • Bats/Throws: L/R
    Brazoria, Texas (West Columbia)



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    Power-hitting left-hander that battled through knee problems last season … had surgery on his knee in the off-season … played in 32 games and started 24, mostly in right field … went 4-for-4 with 2 RBI against Texas (4/16/01) in the Big 12 Tournament … had a career-high 3 RBI against Missouri (5/11/01) … came back to his home state of Texas after a one-year stint at the University of Virginia … had a 30 inch vertical jump, power cleaned 319 pounds, squatted 460 pounds and bench pressed 385 pounds in the 2000 fall testing … hit .316 and led Virginia with nine home runs in 2000 … was named a freshman All-American after his season at Virginia … earned two letters for coach Jim Darilek at Westlake High School in Austin … hit .360 with 10 long balls during his senior season … was an all-state selection in 1999 … played in two straight state championship games … was drafted in the 42nd round of the MLB amateur draft by the Tampa Bay Devil Rays … enjoys martial arts when not playing baseball … born March 9, 1981 in Austin … son of Richard and Dorothy Himes of Austin … economics major.

    CAREER STATISTICS

    Year BA G-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI
    2001 .311 32/24 90 12 28 4 0 1 18
    Career .311 32/24 90 12 28 4 0 1 18

    Year TB Slug% BB HBP SO OB% SF-SH SB-SBA
    2001 35 .389 6 0 27 .347 2/0 2-4
    Career 35 .389 6 0 27 .347 2/0 2-4

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    we finish up our draft with 2 outfielders

    1436 WILLIAM DENNIS INCARNATE WARD U CF L/L 6'2" 180 09/28/1980 4YR

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    1460 BENJAMIN HIMES TEXAS A&M RF L/R 6'4" 205 03/09/1981 4YR

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 15fan:
    <strong>chili -

    Was your statement "Hopefully this won't happen" in regards to the kid taking college classes, or blowing out his arm?

    If it's the latter, I obviously agree whole-heartedly with you. But if it's the former, I've got big problems...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The latter. I wouldn't wish arm trouble on too many people. Don't know what I'd do without my right arm.
    How, then, are those people of the future—who are taking steroids every day—going to look back on baseball players who used steroids? They're going to look back on them as pioneers. They're going to look back at it and say "So what?" - Bill James, Cooperstown and the 'Roids


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