The A's have taken
Nick Swisher, 1B OSU #16
Joe Blanton RHP UK #24
John McCurdy SS U of Maryland #26
Benjamin Fritz RHP Fresno St.
Surprise, surprise, all college players to cut down on signing bonuses and projected high ceiling players. Good draft so far for them. I like Swisher, and Blanton. Could be good MLB players.
'When I'm not longer rapping, I want to open up an ice cream parlor and call myself Scoop Dogg.'
-Snoop on his retirement
Your Mom is happy.
Cecil Fielder's kid. He'll put on some pounds.
Bud Selig: "I'm the worst commissioner ever"
Rob Manfred: "Hold my beer"
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The big boy the Brewers took is Cecil Fielders kid, I believe.
BA's #11 guy is still there.
11
Jason Neighborgall, rhp
Riverside HS, Durham, N.C.
Sr.
18
R-R
6-5
190
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Did Anthony Reyes out of USC get picked yet. The Reds ought to jump on him if he's still there at #40.
“I think I throw the ball as hard as anyone. The ball just doesn't get there as fast.” — Eddie Bane
“We know we're better than this ... but we can't prove it.” — Tony Gwynn
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by MikeS21:
<strong>Did Anthony Reyes out of USC get picked yet. The Reds ought to jump on him if he's still there at #40.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Still on the board
"You're drunk again. No, I'm just exhausted 'cause I've been up all night drinking."
Peter Griffin
Third baseman Baker is still available, too.
19
Jeff Baker, 3b
Clemson U.
Jr.
20
R-R
6-1
215
"People that frequent Internet forums resemble the cast of One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest!" - C. J. Cregg, The West Wing
Ball State's LHP Haggerty is stil there.
"People that frequent Internet forums resemble the cast of One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest!" - C. J. Cregg, The West Wing
Baker is one of the biggest fish left
"You're drunk again. No, I'm just exhausted 'cause I've been up all night drinking."
Peter Griffin
so what does everyone think, good pick bad pick in Gruler? Any picks that really stick out in the first round as good or bad?
Fielder seems high to me and Kazmir seems like a steal at 15.
Reds first round supplemental selection Schramek RHP U of Texas.
"People that frequent Internet forums resemble the cast of One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest!" - C. J. Cregg, The West Wing
I wanted to share with you all some old research I did about high school pitchers taken in the first round. Hopefully, this will give everyone a sense of how large the Reds' gamble was.
Between 1990 and 1996, there were 40 high school pitchers taken in the first round. A total of $42.859 million was been spent on bonus money for these guys (of course the going rate is higher).
- 27 out of the 40 (67.5%) pitchers were busts
- 2 more (5%) will probably be busts
- 1 (2.5%) is a horrible major league pitcher
- 4 of them (10%) had a good year or so then flamed out with injuries
- 4 of them (10%) are actually good major league pitchers
- 1, and only 1 (2.5%), Kerry Wood, is an all-star quality player
I've never seen Grueler pitch. But hopefully this will give some perspective on how big a gamble the Reds are taking.
5 *Kurt Miller, rhp, Pirates 232,000 1990 bust
9 *Ron Walden, lhp, Dodgers 215,000 1990 bust
25 *Robbie Beckett, lhp, Padres 175,000 1990 bust
1 *Brien Taylor, lhp, Yankees $1,550,000 1991 bust
15 *Tyrone Hill, lhp, Brewers 280,000 1991 bust
18 *Al Shirley, of, Mets 245,000 1991 bust
22 *Brian Barber, rhp, Cardinals 200,000 1991 bust
17 *Jim Pittsley, rhp, Royals 410,000 1992 bust
26 *Dan Serafini, lhp, Twins 350,000 1992 bust
8 *Kirk Presley, rhp, Mets 900,000 1993 bust
13 *Matt Drews, rhp, Yankees 620,000 1993 bust
15 *Jayson Peterson, rhp, Cubs 712,500 1994 bust
16 *Matt Smith, lhp-1b, Royals 1,000,000 1994 bust
27 *Jacob Shumate, rhp, Braves 500,000 1994 bust
15 *Andy Yount, rhp, Red Sox 986,000 1995 bust
16 *Joe Fontenot, rhp, Giants 900,000 1995 bust
17 *Todd Noel, rhp, Cubs 900,000 1996 bust
21 *Jake Westbrook, rhp, Rockies 750,000 1996 bust
24 *Sam Marsonek, rhp, Rangers 834,000 1996 bust
26 *Josh Garrett, rhp, Red Sox 665,000 1996 bust
7 *Doug Million, lhp, Rockies 905,000 1994 Died tragically (asthma attack), but was awful in the minors and appeared to be a bust waiting to happen.
5 *John Patterson, rhp, Expos/DBacks 6,075,000 1996 helped send the Dbacks toward bankrupcy
7 *Matt White, rhp, Giants/DRays 10,200,000 1996 helped send the Drays toward bankrupcy
12 *Bobby Seay, lhp, White Sox/DRays 3,000,000 1996 helped send the Drays toward bankrupcy
22 *Tony McKnight, rhp, Astros 500,000 1995 net value was a rental of Mike Williams for the 2001 stretch run
14 #*Todd Van Poppel, rhp, Athletics 500,000 1990 of no value to team that drafted him
12 *Todd Ritchie, rhp, Twins 252,500 1990 released by team that drafted him before succeeding later
5 *Kenny Henderson, rhp, Brewers Did not sign 1991 DNS
30 *Nick Bierbrodt, lhp, Diamondbacks 1,046,000 1996 will probably be a bust
22 *Gil Meche, rhp, Mariners 820,000 1996 will be a bust unless he recovers from injury
28 *Jamey Wright, rhp, Rockies 395,000 1993 not a bust, but a bad major league starting pitcher. Doesn't throw strikes.
23 *Jeff D'Amico, rhp, Brewers 525,000 1993 Dominant in 2000; worthless to Brewers in other years due to injury
11 *Adam Eaton, rhp, Phillies 1,100,000 1996 looked very promising in short major league stint. Career may be over due to injury.
10 *Jaret Wright, rhp, Indians 1,150,000 1994 Short, immediate success in majors before flaming out due to injury
25 *Scott Elarton, rhp, Astros 750,000 1994 Short, immediate success in majors before flaming out due to injury
17 *Roy Halladay, rhp, Blue Jays 895,000 1995 excellent pick
15 *Chris Carpenter, rhp, Blue Jays 580,000 1993 middle of rotation starter; has pitched over 200 innings only once
22 *Steve Karsay, rhp, Blue Jays 180,000 1990 success came near his free agent years
11 *Shawn Estes, lhp, Mariners 332,500 1991 valuable major league player in his best years, despite walking many batters
4 *Kerry Wood, rhp, Cubs 1,265,000 1995 worth every penny, even though he was of no use to the Cubs for 1.5 years due to injury
Stick to your guns.
Reds take a catcher in round 2?
Meanwhile, Dave Bush goes to the Blue Jays. :mad:
Who's this pitcher from Texas? The description from mlb.com is about a hitter, not a pitcher. Any bio info available?
Gruler has committed to Arizona State. I assume that won't be a problem this year?
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