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    Re: AP - Marlins checking Portland - woy & pedro on welcoming committee

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R
    From what I've heard and read you may not be getting it through 06.
    That is correct.

    I always buy one heading into GABP for a night game. Seems like the right thing to do.

    I'm interested in what Lancaster does after the Post goes.
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    Re: AP - Marlins checking Portland - woy & pedro on welcoming committee

    Quote Originally Posted by Heath
    That is correct.

    I always buy one heading into GABP for a night game. Seems like the right thing to do.

    I'm interested in what Lancaster does after the Post goes.
    I wish the Enquirer would hire him but he's probably too good. Either way I hope he has his resume out there.
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    Re: AP - Marlins checking Portland - woy & pedro on welcoming committee

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc. Scott
    It's odd that they don't have two pay-fer papers, being that Portland is bigger than Cincinnati and growing (unlike Cincinnati).
    The difference is, Cincinnati has large cities in close proximity--Dayton, Columbus, Louisville and Indianapolis--from which it draws a sizeable number of fans. Portland doesn't have that luxury, it pretty much stands alone in that geographical area.

    And, FWIW, the Cincinnati MSA grew by 160,000, or roughly 8.5%, between 1990 - 2000.
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    Re: AP - Marlins checking Portland - woy & pedro on welcoming committee

    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis
    The difference is, Cincinnati has large cities in close proximity--Dayton, Columbus, Louisville and Indianapolis--from which it draws a sizeable number of fans. Portland doesn't have that luxury, it pretty much stands alone in that geographical area.

    And, FWIW, the Cincinnati MSA grew by 160,000, or roughly 8.5%, between 1990 - 2000.
    I was just referring to the widely-published stat that the Cincinnati metro area lost 40,000 people in the 1990s. It is true that the market size is still expanding.

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    Re: AP - Marlins checking Portland - woy & pedro on welcoming committee

    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis
    The difference is, Cincinnati has large cities in close proximity--Dayton, Columbus, Louisville and Indianapolis--from which it draws a sizeable number of fans. Portland doesn't have that luxury, it pretty much stands alone in that geographical area.

    And, FWIW, the Cincinnati MSA grew by 160,000, or roughly 8.5%, between 1990 - 2000.
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    Re: AP - Marlins checking Portland - woy & pedro on welcoming committee

    Quote Originally Posted by Heath
    try arena football
    Cincy is on its 3rd team now
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    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed
    Cincy is on its 3rd team now
    I wished the NHL would have came to Cincinnati - even more dreaming - I wish the Stingers never left and got brought into the NHL when the WHA folded. IIRC - rumors said that they got beat out by Hartford or Quebec.

    NHL fans know how that ended up.
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    Re: AP - Marlins checking Portland - woy & pedro on welcoming committee

    Portland would support MLB much better than NHL but it wouldn't be a slam dunk. My answer would have been different 5-6 years ago when the NHL wasn't a complete afterthought and the Mariners/Safeco creating some excitement in the region. Lots of transplants here and with the bulk of the population growth being international vs domestic (Latino and Asian). I'm not sure the region could produce more than small-low mid market revenues.

    Portland and Cinci are roughly the same population size within the region (not counting the +1 regional addition we just added last week to PDX . I think the four regional PDX counties are about 1.8M, roughly a bit smller than the main OH/KY counties. Difference here is no regional draw since PDX area is well over 50% of the total state population and the Mariners are entrenched as Washington's team outside the Vancouver area.

    The economy and construction have been rapidly picking up here as well after a several year downturn.

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    Portland mayor b-slaps the Marlins

    Good for him!

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2286405

    PORTLAND, Ore. -- Mayor Tom Potter said Monday he has a "very strong sense" that most Portlanders don't care about landing a major league baseball team and reiterated his position that the city will not help finance a ballpark for the Florida Marlins.

    Potter spoke after meeting with Marlins president David Samson and other team officials, who are touring potential new homes for the franchise.

    "My concern is that Portland is facing a crisis in education," Potter said. "That's my top priority, to find funding for that. And I expressed that today."
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    Re: Portland mayor b-slaps the Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili
    Good for him!

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2286405

    PORTLAND, Ore. -- Mayor Tom Potter said Monday he has a "very strong sense" that most Portlanders don't care about landing a major league baseball team and reiterated his position that the city will not help finance a ballpark for the Florida Marlins.

    Potter spoke after meeting with Marlins president David Samson and other team officials, who are touring potential new homes for the franchise.

    "My concern is that Portland is facing a crisis in education," Potter said. "That's my top priority, to find funding for that. And I expressed that today."
    Natives, maybe not. Transplants like myself (that seem to be like 80% of the city's population) are far more amenable to it, considering that the majority of them come from places where there are major-league sports.

    However, I'm with Potter on the financing. Portland doesn't need higher taxes to pay for sports stadiums any more than anywhere else. It's a travesty the way professional sports has set things up to where a publicly-financed stadium is considered an expectation.

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    Re: AP - Marlins checking Portland - woy & pedro on welcoming committee

    http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...s/13589015.htm

    BY BARRY JACKSON
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    Continuing to explore possible relocation, three Marlins executives visited Portland, Ore., on Monday and found the same sentiment they've encountered in South Florida: a lack of appetite to cover more than a portion of stadium financing costs through public funding.

    Although Marlins president David Samson said funding plans weren't discussed, Portland Mayor Tom Potter said he stood by his previous comment that ``publicly financed baseball would not be coming to Portland on my watch. And that was not a point of discussion today.''

    Asked if baseball could work in Portland, Potter said at a late-afternoon news conference: ``I don't know. I haven't seen a plan yet that does it. . . . I do not want the city of Portland taking out any mortgage on our children's future.''

    The Oregon Legislature in 2003 authorized using as much as $150 million from players' income taxes on funding a stadium. But no additional public money has been identified toward financing a facility that could cost $400 million or more. As part of that state legislation, the team must have a player payroll of $75 million in its first season and $82 million in its second, with five percent increases in ensuing years.

    The Marlins' visit to Portland followed last month's trip to San Antonio. Samson said the Marlins likely will visit five additional markets, including one unidentified location this month. Samson said no visit has been scheduled to Las Vegas, but that seems inevitable. Samson -- accompanied by team executives Joel Mael and Claude Delorme -- met with Potter, Oregon Sports Authority CEO Drew Mahalic and Oregon Gov. Ted Kulongoski and attended a reception of business and community leaders. They also toured possible stadium sites.

    ''It was an introductory meeting,'' Samson said. ``We reiterated to everybody that we continue to work on a deal in Florida. As each day passes without a deal, it becomes more and more important that we explore relocation.''

    Samson also said conversations continue about building a retractable-roof stadium on Wayne Huizenga-owned land next to Dolphins Stadium, but the funding gap (between $75 million and $100 million) remains.

    The idea of placing a dome on Dolphins Stadium also has been raised recently, but Samson said the Marlins are not considering that. The Marlins say they will play at Dolphins Stadium at least two -- but no more than five -- more seasons.

    Said Samson: ``We're exploring all possibilities. I never thought it would come to this.''
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    Re: Portland mayor b-slaps the Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili
    Good for him!

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2286405

    PORTLAND, Ore. -- Mayor Tom Potter said Monday he has a "very strong sense" that most Portlanders don't care about landing a major league baseball team and reiterated his position that the city will not help finance a ballpark for the Florida Marlins.

    Potter spoke after meeting with Marlins president David Samson and other team officials, who are touring potential new homes for the franchise.

    "My concern is that Portland is facing a crisis in education," Potter said. "That's my top priority, to find funding for that. And I expressed that today."
    Sounds like a politician in his election year.
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    Re: Portland mayor b-slaps the Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by Heath
    Sounds like a politician in his election year.
    Nah he came in last year. PDX city goverment does have an education problem, they also tax the crap out of business so the big guys go to the Burbs... Potter is an ex sheriff, not a career politician.

    A local guy for sure... sure he doesn't care about MLB.. he has teh Ducks and Blazers.

    I don't want to pay MLB to come here, but I also sure don't turn my nose up at the possibility of having a team here.

    One of the local tribes has offered to build the place if they can get a casino boat on the river..... ain't likely.

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    Re: Portland mayor b-slaps the Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    Nah he came in last year. PDX city goverment does have an education problem, they also tax the crap out of business so the big guys go to the Burbs... Potter is an ex sheriff, not a career politician.

    A local guy for sure... sure he doesn't care about MLB.. he has teh Ducks and Blazers.

    I don't want to pay MLB to come here, but I also sure don't turn my nose up at the possibility of having a team here.

    One of the local tribes has offered to build the place if they can get a casino boat on the river..... ain't likely.

    I think PDX had an educational issue years ago.

    I know about it. I watched Mr. Holland's Opus.
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