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    Cleveland Paper: Graves Hoping to Revive Career

    No mention of the Vietnam trip, so I figured this deserved its own thread.

    http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plai...150.xml&coll=2

    Now, it's Graves who's the veteran


    Friday, January 13, 2006Burt Graeff
    Plain Dealer Reporter

    The hair is long. The ears are pierced and about a dozen tattoos line various body parts belonging the Danny Graves.

    "I was a kid the last time I was in here," said Graves, looking around the Indians clubhouse on Thursday afternoon. "I am different now."

    Some of the nameplates he saw above the lockers in the empty clubhouse at Jacobs Field on Wednesday: Hafner, Boone, Sabathia, Peralta.

    The nameplates are much different than the ones Graves saw when he was called up to the Indians in July 1996. "Guys like [Albert] Belle, [Kenny] Lofton and [Jim] Thome were here then," Graves said.

    "I saw those superstars and I wanted to go hide in a corner. Now, I talk a lot."

    Graves was 23 when he first appeared in a big-league game, pitching two innings in a 19-11 victory over the Minnesota Twins on July 13, 1996.
    Baseball careers often have unusual twists. The Indians sent Graves, then a right-handed prospect, to the Cincinnati Reds as part of a six-player trade in July 1997.

    In Cincinnati, Graves' career came alive, then died.

    Now, back in Cleveland, Graves hopes to revive it.

    The Tribe, looking for help with the departure of Bob Howry to the Chicago Cubs, signed Graves to a minor-league contract in December with an invitation to the big-league camp for spring training.

    "I felt like I was 44 years old at the end of last season," said Graves, 32.


    "Today, I feel like I am 24.

    "I am a born-again baseball player."

    Graves holds the Reds' franchise record for career saves - 182 - but what turned out to be an ill-fated move to the starting rotation in 2003, where he went 4-15 (5.33 ERA), sent a blossoming career into a tailspin.

    The Indians played a role in Graves' career bottoming out. In a May 22 game at Cincinnati against the Tribe, Graves started the ninth and was rocked for five runs in one-third of an inning in a 9-2 loss.

    Moments after he was removed from the game, a fan near the Reds dugout barked a racial slur to Graves, who is the lone big-league player born in Vietnam. Graves responded with an obscene gesture and, on the next day, was designated for assignment by the Reds.

    "The fan should not have said what he said and I should have not responded the way I did," said Graves, who closed out the season with the New York Mets and the Class AAA Norfolk Tides.

    Graves is eager for the chance to revive his career where it began.
    "Mentally, the starting thing stayed with me for a long time," Graves said. "I can joke about it now. Hopefully, the 15 losses is out of my system.

    "Physically, I think I'm close to being back. The arm strength is there."
    Tribe General Manager Mark Shapiro was the team's director of minor-league operations when Graves was traded nearly nine years ago. "On the day I left," Graves said, "Mark told me he'd try to get me back.

    "When I came in here today, it was like I never left. Even if some things are different."

    Like the longer hair, the ear piercings, the tattoos and the nameplates above the lockers.

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    Re: Cleveland Paper: Graves Hoping to Revive Career

    I for one am rooting for Graves, and hope he is able to have an effective year for the Tribe.
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    Re: Cleveland Paper: Graves Hoping to Revive Career

    I wonder if he has been in contact with Miracle Max.
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    Re: Cleveland Paper: Graves Hoping to Revive Career

    Graves was 23 when he first appeared in a big-league game, pitching two innings in a 19-11 victory over the Minnesota Twins on July 13, 1996.
    NM, was thinking of another game.
    "And the fact that watching him pitch is like having someone poop on your soul." FCB on Gary Majewski

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    Re: Cleveland Paper: Graves Hoping to Revive Career

    I remember Larry Holmes' comeback against Mike Tyson.

    That went well.

    I wonder if Graves will be using a wooden racket like Bjorn Borg.
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    Re: Cleveland Paper: Graves Hoping to Revive Career

    Sava and I are probably the only ones hoping for Danny to succeed.

    I love his personality and he was ALWAYS the most fan-friendly player at Reds Fest, often signing autographs as he passed through the crowd arfter his session was finished.

    I know he's said/done a couple unfortunate things... so have I (and, if you're honest, so have you... even on the job).

    I'm glad he's getting a second chance. I hope he truly makes the best of it.
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    Re: Cleveland Paper: Graves Hoping to Revive Career

    he won't last long in an indian uniform and we'll still be on him and he aint even a red anymore

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    Re: Cleveland Paper: Graves Hoping to Revive Career

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamBoone
    Sava and I are probably the only ones hoping for Danny to succeed.
    I like Danny and wish him well. Someone has to represent all the little people out there. Just kidding. He was a quality pitcher for most of his days as a Red and it was sad to see it end on such a low note.

    However, it's hard to see how he is going to revive his career unless he can find the 6-8mph he lost off his fastball.
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    Re: Cleveland Paper: Graves Hoping to Revive Career

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo Cabesa
    I like Danny and wish him well. Someone has to represent all the little people out there. Just kidding. He was a quality pitcher for most of his days as a Red and it was sad to see it end on such a low note.

    However, it's hard to see how he is going to revive his career unless he can find the 6-8mph he lost off his fastball.
    Yep, unless Danny can find his knuckleball, I'm afraid his day as a big-leaguer is done.
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    Re: Cleveland Paper: Graves Hoping to Revive Career

    "I was a kid the last time I was in here," said Graves, looking around the Indians clubhouse on Thursday afternoon. "I am different now."
    And feeling kinda' "small."
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    Re: Cleveland Paper: Graves Hoping to Revive Career

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamBoone
    Sava and I are probably the only ones hoping for Danny to succeed.
    Definitely not true!! I'll always cheer for Danny to do well... I really hope it works out for him in Cleveland!!
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    And made me reach for something more"



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    Re: Cleveland Paper: Graves Hoping to Revive Career

    Will he stop blaming us soon?


    Seriously, I hope he has success
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    Re: Cleveland Paper: Graves Hoping to Revive Career

    Quote Originally Posted by Super_Barry11
    Definitely not true!! I'll always cheer for Danny to do well... I really hope it works out for him in Cleveland!!
    I was glad to see him gone, but I wish him well.
    "My mission is to be the ray of hope, the guy who stands out there on that beautiful field and owns up to his mistakes and lets people know it's never completely hopeless, no matter how bad it seems at the time. I have a platform and a message, and now I go to bed at night, sober and happy, praying I can be a good messenger." -Josh Hamilton

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    Re: Cleveland Paper: Graves Hoping to Revive Career

    Time will tell I wish him well. He's got to get past the mental wall and let it fly. He really doesn't have many pitches, everyong pretty much knows what's coming.

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    Re: Cleveland Paper: Graves Hoping to Revive Career

    If he doesn't regain the sink on his sinker and add a few mph's on his fastball, he's toast.
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