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View Poll Results: Which Starting Pitchers (A-I) belong in the RedsZone HOF?

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  • Babe Adams

    1 4.00%
  • Pete Alexander

    16 64.00%
  • Chief Bender

    8 32.00%
  • Vida Blue

    3 12.00%
  • Bert Blyleven

    17 68.00%
  • Tommy Bond

    0 0%
  • Tommy Bridges

    1 4.00%
  • Three Finger Brown

    14 56.00%
  • Jim Bunning

    11 44.00%
  • Lew Burdette

    3 12.00%
  • Steve Carlton

    22 88.00%
  • Bob Caruthers

    4 16.00%
  • Jack Chesbro

    6 24.00%
  • John Clarkson

    12 48.00%
  • Wilbur Cooper

    1 4.00%
  • Stanley Coveleski

    5 20.00%
  • Hooks Dauss

    1 4.00%
  • Dizzy Dean

    19 76.00%
  • Paul Derringer

    4 16.00%
  • Don Drysdale

    16 64.00%
  • Red Faber

    5 20.00%
  • Bob Feller

    21 84.00%
  • Wes Ferrell

    1 4.00%
  • Freddie Fitzsimmons

    0 0%
  • Whitey Ford

    20 80.00%
  • Pud Galvin

    11 44.00%
  • Lefty Gomez

    11 44.00%
  • Dwight Gooden

    1 4.00%
  • Clark Griffith

    6 24.00%
  • Burleigh Grimes

    6 24.00%
  • Lefty Grove

    21 84.00%
  • Ron Guidry

    2 8.00%
  • Noodles Hahn

    7 28.00%
  • Jesse Haines

    1 4.00%
  • Mel Harder

    0 0%
  • Orel Hershiser

    2 8.00%
  • Waite Hoyt

    8 32.00%
  • Carl Hubbell

    20 80.00%
  • Catfish Hunter

    9 36.00%
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Thread: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, A-I

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    RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, A-I

    Vote for all STARTING PITCHERS with last names beginning with A-I that you believe should be in the Hall of Fame. This is a multiple-choice poll so you're allowed to vote for more than one player.

    Technically this is A-H since there won't be anyone with a last name starting with I on the poll, but anyway here's the first of three polls for starting pitchers. There will be well over 100 starting pitchers ultimately listed and throwing them all on one poll is just screaming for people to accidentely forget to vote for someone. I'll wait the usual 1-2 weeks before putting up the next poll so as not to clutter the forum up with the HOF polls.

    As usual, the tier system remains ...
    • 19th century (i.e. pre 1903): Need 2/5 support
    • Early Modern (roughly 1903-1945): Need 1/2 support
    • Integration (roughly 1945-1970): Need 5/8 support
    • Post Integration (roughly 1970-present): Need 2/3 support

    The one change I did make was using different statistics for the pitchers list, which I do not know if it's for better or for worse, but nevertheless this is what we'll roll with for this go around. It's pretty basic here, innings and ERA+ with the player's era designation.
    Code:
    Player               Innings    ERA+       Era
    Babe Adams           2,995.1    117    Early Modern to WWII
    Pete Alexander       5,190.0    135    Early Modern to WWII                                       
    Chief Bender         3,017.0    112    Early Modern to WWII
    Vida Blue            3,343.1    108    Post Integration
    Bert Blyleven        4,970.0    118    Post Integration
    Tommy Bond           3,628.2    111    19th Century
    Tommy Bridges        2,286.1    126    Early Modern to WWII
    Three Finger Brown   3,172.1    138    Early Modern to WWII
    Jim Bunning          3,760.1    114    Integration
    Lew Burdette         3,067.1     98    Integration
    Steve Carlton        5,217.1    115    Post Integration
    Bob Caruthers        2,228.2    123    19th Century
    Jack Chesbro         2,896.2    110    Early Modern to WWII
    John Clarkson        4,536.1    134    19th Century
    Wilbur Cooper        3,480.0    116    Early Modern to WWII
    Code:
    Player               Innings    ERA+       Era
    Stanley Coveleski    3,082.0    127    Early Modern to WWII
    Hooks Dauss          3,390.2    102    Early Modern to WWII
    Dizzy Dean           1,967.1    130    Early Modern to WWII
    Paul Derringer       3,645.0    108    Early Modern to WWII
    Don Drysdale         3,432.0    121    Integration
    Red Faber            4,086.2    119    Early Modern to WWII
    Bob Feller*          3,827.0    122    Integration
    Wes Ferrell          2,623.0    117    Early Modern to WWII
    Freddie Fitzsimmons  3,223.2    111    Early Modern to WWII
    Whitey Ford          3,170.1    132    Integration
    Pud Galvin           6,003.1    108    19th Century
    Lefty Gomez          2,503.0    125    Early Modern to WWII
    Dwight Gooden        2,800.2    110    Post Integration
    Clark Griffith       3,385.2    121    19th Century
    Burleigh Grimes      4,180.0    107    Early Modern to WWII
    Code:
    Player               Innings    ERA+       Era
    Lefty Grove          3,940.2    148    Early Modern to WWII
    Ron Guidry           2,392.0    120    Post Integration
    Noodles Hahn         2,029.1    132    Early Modern to WWII
    Jesse Haines         3,208.2    108    Early Modern to WWII
    Mel Harder           3,426.1    113    Early Modern to WWII
    Orel Hershiser       3,130.1    112    Post Integration
    Waite Hoyt           3,762.1    111    Early Modern to WWII
    Carl Hubbell         3,590.1    130    Early Modern to WWII
    Catfish Hunter       3,449.1    104    Post Integration
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    Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, A-I

    A bump for the poll regulars since some may have missed it due to a three day weekend
    Barry Larkin - HOF, 2012

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    Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, A-I

    Can we reopen this? I think it sort of got lost in the shuffle, what with all the recent news about Bob Castellini taking over, and the firing of DanO.

    I really like voting on these things, and I can't believe that I missed this one. Judging by the number of respondents, it looks like a lot of others missed this one, too.
    Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman. Damn glad to meet ya.

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    Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, A-I

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu
    Can we reopen this? I think it sort of got lost in the shuffle, what with all the recent news about Bob Castellini taking over, and the firing of DanO.

    I really like voting on these things, and I can't believe that I missed this one. Judging by the number of respondents, it looks like a lot of others missed this one, too.
    I can do that for, say, three more days, assuming that's OK with Cyclone.

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    Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, A-I

    I'm really glad to see all the support for Blyleven, but more votes for him than Pete Alexander, Lefty Grove and Carl Hubbell? Come on.

    John Clarkson's in at the moment, but that could get dicey. I urge people to review his record.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/clarkjo01.shtml

    He was one of the truly great pitchers of the 1800s.
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    Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, A-I

    He was one of the truly great pitchers of the 1800s.
    He also liked to wear a big ol shiney belt buckle and tried his best to make sure the sun reflected off it and in the batters eyes.

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    Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, A-I

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss-Hog
    I can do that for, say, three more days, assuming that's OK with Cyclone.
    Go for it, Boss! Heck, reopen it for another week so there's plenty of time to get more votes in.
    Barry Larkin - HOF, 2012

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    Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, A-I

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792
    Go for it, Boss! Heck, reopen it for another week so there's plenty of time to get more votes in.
    It should be open until 2/8.

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    Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, A-I

    Thanks. I haven't had time, but I should be able to vote by then.

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    Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, A-I

    Can we reopen the election for President? I goofed and I'd like to try again.

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    Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, A-I

    I voted for:

    Alexander, Bender, Blyleven, Brown, Bunning, Carlton, Chesbro, Clarkson, Coveleski, Dean, Drysdale, Feller, Ford, Galvin, Gomez, Griffith, Grimes, Grove, Hubbell, and Hunter.


    I thought that Alexander, Brown, Carlton, Dean, Feller, Ford, Grove, and Hubbell were the automatic choices.
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    Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, A-I

    Poll closes tonight so if you want to vote, vote now!

    My ballot ...

    Alexander, Blyleven, Brown, Carlton, Clarkson, Coveleski, Dean, Drysdale, Faber, Feller, Ford, Galvin, Gomez, Grove and Hubbell.
    Barry Larkin - HOF, 2012

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    Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, A-I

    The final results ...

    Code:
    RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers A-I
    
    Player                  % of votes
    Pete Alexander        64.00 percent
    Bert Blyleven         68.00 percent
    Three Finger Brown    56.00 percent
    Steve Carlton         88.00 percent
    John Clarkson         48.00 percent
    Dizzy Dean            76.00 percent
    Don Drysdale          64.00 percent
    Bob Feller            84.00 percent
    Whitey Ford           80.00 percent
    Pud Galvin            44.00 percent
    Lefty Grove           84.00 percent
    Carl Hubbell          80.00 percent
    Every single player above is an actual MLB Hall of Famer ... except ... Bert Blyleven. Blyleven slid in with just enough support and joined 11 other pitchers that were among the A-I group to be elected to the RZ HOF.
    Barry Larkin - HOF, 2012

    Put an end to the Lost Decade.


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