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    Theo Returns to Boston Full-Time


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    Re: Theo Returns to Boston Full-Time

    So much for hiring him
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    Re: Theo Returns to Boston Full-Time

    I wonder if any team even tried to reel him in.

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    Re: Theo Returns to Boston Full-Time

    it'll be intersting to see his new role and if he clashes with luchino again

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    Re: Theo Returns to Boston Full-Time

    At Baseball Musings some good pieces are picked at.

    http://www.baseballmusings.com/

    Dan Shaughnessey is not kind to Theo Epstein in his analysis of the comeback:

    Unfortunately, there wasn't much honor or glory in Theo's comportment after he left Fenway in that gorilla suit Oct. 31. Rather, he undermined the credibility of the entire Boston front office by straddling the fence regarding his place in the organization. He repeatedly refused offers to return, but would not rule out coming back. He revealed himself to be every bit the cutthroat politician Lucchino is. He's been at best, immature and at worst, duplicitous.

    With his silence and refusal to take himself off the map of Red Sox Nation, Epstein allowed himself to be put in a no-lose situation -- at the expense of everyone else currently toiling in baseball operations at Yawkey Way. Through his unofficial spokesman from ESPN (the inimitable Gammons), we heard Theo was behind deals the Sox made. He got credit for the good transactions, whether he deserved it or not, but would never be blamed if any failed.

    Like a character from Camelot, Theo remained forever young, forever brilliant, forever the man who brought a championship to Boston. And as long as he operated in the shadows, or allowed us to believe he was still involved, he couldn't lose. This dynamic made Theo less than popular with some of his hard-working friends in baseball operations.

    Tony Massarotti in the Boston Herald (in my opinion, the definitive voice on this story from the beginning) also sees the downside for Theo:

    On the surface, it would be easy to celebrate Epstein’s return as a glorious reconciliation, but it would be foolish to do so. We already know too much. When Epstein walked away from the Red Sox on Oct. 31, his departure was looked upon nobly. In part because Lucchino diddled around during contract negotiations, Epstein thumbed his nose at the Sox and walked out the door. He had his whole life in front of him. Who needed the Red Sox? Now, Epstein is returning, and we cannot help but wonder: Why? Epstein is young and smart, and he (along with Lucchino and Henry) built the Red Sox into champions generally by making shrewd decisions. The Red Sox played the percentages during their run to the world title, yet it certainly seems now — for Epstein, in particular — the chances of failure are much greater than chances of success.

    The Red Sox keep turning into the Yankees. This is the Billy Martin saga in the front office. Here's Shaughnessy on John Henry (emphasis added):

    Henry and Lucchino were in Phoenix yesterday at the owners' meetings. I spoke with Henry late in the afternoon before he boarded a jet to fly home to Boston. I told him the same thing I had told him in December. I thought it looked as if he could not make a decision. I thought he should either fire Lucchino or tell Epstein to get lost. Nobody was going to buy the idea of Theo walking back into the same situation he walked away from in October. Why was Theo still hanging around, talking to co-GMs Ben Cherington and Jed Hoyer? Why was the light still on if there was so much friction between Epstein and Lucchino?

    Steinbrenner and Martin. I hate you you're fired. I love you come back.

    Boston's front office is a soap opera. New York's front office is the calmest and quietest I've seen it since George took over. Who'd have thunk it?

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    Re: Theo Returns to Boston Full-Time

    I alway read this take on the whole thing
    Normally I would agree, except Theo never left: Never stopped working for the team, never stopped being involved in personal decisions, never stopped anything. This was like one of those trial separations in which Dad announces to the kids that he and Mom are splitting up for a little while, so everyone flips out, and then Dad says, "I'm staying in the guest bedroom for the next 10 days, then I'm getting my own place," and it's awkward at breakfast every morning, and you feel bad seeing him sleep in the guest room every night -- especially because Mom was definitely to blame -- and then you get sidetracked by the holidays and everything, and suddenly you look up three weeks later and Dad's still around, only he's sneaking into Mom's room to sleep every night, and everyone knows they're back together, only they don't want to jinx it by announcing it yet, so another three weeks passes before it becomes official. And then you have to act surprised when you hear the news. That's what this Theo thing was like.

    (By the way, that analogy is much more fun if you imagine Larry Lucchino in drag wearing a pink bathrobe, smoking cigs with a scowl on his face and playing the role of "Mom.")
    Climbing down from the bridge, but keeping the torch lit until Dusty's fate is settled


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